Miles Davis - Kind Of Blue

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Originally posted by Whizzkid:

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Originally posted by fred simon:

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Originally posted by Whizzkid:

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Originally posted by James L:

Try Miles' Bitches Brew.
You'll love it.

Now thats proper Miles Davis to me.

I love Kind Of Blue and Bitches Brew ... not at all mutually exclusive!

Fred,


I was being a little cheeky with that post, but there is subjective truth in my words. I personally bought Kind Of Blue as an entry into Jazz and Miles Davis after reading here and other music fora but have grown to think of it as an historically important document of Jazz but musically quite bland, when I reach for Jazz its much more modern and when I reach for Miles Davis its Bitches Brew, On The Corner, Arghata era Miles Davis, so I can definitely see Kind Of Blue being irritating.

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Originally posted by Oldnslow:
What I find most interesting about "Dave Brubeck's: post, is that many jazz musicians, probably Miles too, felt Brubeck couldn't swing at all and was a hugely overrated jazz musician..hehehe

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Originally posted by irwan shah:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Oldnslow:
What I find most interesting about "Dave Brubeck's: post, is that many jazz musicians, probably Miles too, felt Brubeck couldn't swing at all and was a hugely overrated jazz musician..hehehe

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Originally posted by Graeme Hutton:

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Originally posted by irwan shah:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Oldnslow:
What I find most interesting about "Dave Brubeck's: post, is that many jazz musicians, probably Miles too, felt Brubeck couldn't swing at all and was a hugely overrated jazz musician..hehehe

To be fair to Brubeck How many other jazz pianists do you know who can play with their elbows?

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Originally posted by James L:
That's a brave post.

Try Miles' Bitches Brew.
You'll love it.

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Originally posted by fred simon:

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Originally posted by Whizzkid:

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Originally posted by fred simon:

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Originally posted by Whizzkid:

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Originally posted by James L:

Try Miles' Bitches Brew.
You'll love it.

Now thats proper Miles Davis to me.

I love Kind Of Blue and Bitches Brew ... not at all mutually exclusive!

Fred,


I was being a little cheeky with that post, but there is subjective truth in my words. I personally bought Kind Of Blue as an entry into Jazz and Miles Davis after reading here and other music fora but have grown to think of it as an historically important document of Jazz but musically quite bland, when I reach for Jazz its much more modern and when I reach for Miles Davis its Bitches Brew, On The Corner, Arghata era Miles Davis, so I can definitely see Kind Of Blue being irritating.

Hi, Dean ... I have no problem with anyone liking/not liking Kind Of Blue or Bitches Brew. Now, if someone were to extrapolate from their dislike of one or the other that they were not excellent realizations of their respective artistic intents, I'd have a serious problem with that, but that's a different discussion ... we're talking strictly personal taste here, and, as you have properly noted, you acknowledge the historical importance of Kind Of Blue despite it leaving you cold, and that's all anyone could ever ask of another.

I would point out the apparent contradiction of music that you find "bland" also being "irritating" ... semantically speaking, something that's bland has little chance of irritating. And, even though I don't find this to be the case at all, I could much more easily see how someone who likes Kind Of Blue would find Bitches Brew irritating than the other way around.

However, not to convince you that you should like Kind Of Blue, but to offer insight into why many do not find it bland, I would say that what seems bland to you is subtle, ethereal, dream-like, gentle, and poetic to others ... very much like the Japanese art of water-colors that pianist Bill Evans refers to in his original liner notes (which, for anyone wanting a deeper appreciation of the album, and of the art of improvisation in general, would do well to read). It's very much about understatement and suggestion.

I will say this: an artist who can make two masterpieces as seemingly disparate as Kind Of Blue and Bitches Brew is certainly some kind of genius.

All best,
Fred

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Originally posted by graham55:

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..and I had to look up 'trolling'.... and no I am not.

That's just great: you managed to do so without knowing what you were doing!

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Originally posted by Rockingdoc:
Did you know that "Kind of Blue" is now on the music A-Level syllabus. I wish I was back at school.

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Originally posted by fred simon:


The irony of someone named (whether by birth or appropriation) "Dave Brubeck" finding Kind Of Blue "irritating" is downright flabbergasting.

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Originally posted by Whizzkid:

I'm not putting others opinion and tastes down I'm just offering mine up for the benefit of the debate as some seem flabbergasted that you could offer anything other than praise for Kind Of Blue.

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Originally posted by GFFJ:
I was loaned Kind of Blue [and a couple of other Davis recordings], listened and have not bought a copy. No intention of borrowing it again either. Had it six months and accept that the legend is true, and I am wrong.

ATB from George

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Originally posted by fred simon:

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Originally posted by Whizzkid:

I'm not putting others opinion and tastes down I'm just offering mine up for the benefit of the debate as some seem flabbergasted that you could offer anything other than praise for Kind Of Blue.

Hi Dean,

Just to be totally clear ... as I said, it was the irony of someone named "Dave Brubeck" not liking Kind Of Blue that flabbergasted me. I have no problem with people not liking it in general.

Best,
Fred

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Originally posted by pcstockton:

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Originally posted by James L:
That's a brave post.

Try Miles' Bitches Brew.
You'll love it.

Well I would take ALL of the albums in between those bookends.