Lavry Settings

Wayne

Crystal
Invert &
47

Cheers

Richard

Can be better in narrow with a well clocked input but usually best as above.

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Originally posted by js:
Can be better in narrow with a well clocked input but usually best as above.

I agree, although designer never explained clearly why it was suggested that narrow mode will give better performance with very low jitter source (I use it with my audio card).
Polarity has to be set to invert depending on the dip switches, if you use Flashback cable pin layout select invert. It is explained somewhere in the Lavry forum.
I also found 47 the volume level that matches exactly my CDX2 output volume.
AES/EBU MUCH more better results than SPDIF in my case, but that could be because of the different audio device used with each input.

It's because it's not reclocking in that instance. Just upsampling. When I test DACs, I always try to give a good source at some point to hear it's best. Found it interesting that many owners weren't aware and argued that bit.

Thanks all. I am using a Sonos which is relatively high jitter so will try the recommended to start with. Cable is Canare.

Crystal
Invert &
47

Thanks,
Wayne

There is a white paper on the Lavry site called 'On jitter' that describes how CrystalLock works - checkout the last page. They use a buffer and clock data out with a clock that may in fact change frequency, but in very small increments at very infrequent intervals.

All a bit technical for me!

Sonos prefers crystal from experience. You're good. Isn't this your second go around? Did anyone mention that it wasn't a streamer and therefore must be terribly lacking. Joke

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Originally posted by js:
Sonos prefers crystal from experience. You're good. Isn't this your second go around? Did anyone mention that it wasn't a streamer and therefore must be terribly lacking. Joke

Good memory, yes this is my second one. I wasn't so keen on the first one and then forgot about DACs for a while. Then I heard a friends Lavry and it sounded much better than I remembered it got me thinking. So when I recently got a Sonos and a offer of a well price Lavry from a soon to be Naim DAC owner came up I went for it.

Defintely sounds better than I remember it in my lounge although I couldn't be totally sure without a back to back comparison. Also, I now have a Nait XS/Flatcap and Kudos setup now while I had a Nait 5i and Neat Motive 2s when I had one previously.

Thanks

Sample variation I'm afraid. JN on here has borrowed my Lavry, as the one he had was well off the pace. It was the second time I've come across that, you never really know unless you get a couple of examples to compare I guess. Same with all kit.

A DA10 that works as it should is a bargain and should be good with the Sonos.

Joe

Just a question on volume..

I am using the Lavry at 47 volume and my normal volume on my Nait XS and it sounds a bit soft and lifeless. Turn it up and it sounds much better, like I would expect it to. Is this because the Lavry has a fairly low gain or possibly due to the cheapish digital coax cable I am using?

I am using it with a Sonos unit, not sure if this is an issue. Other forum members have had some success with these

Any comments welcome

Thanks

Wazza - the Lavry should sound fine on the end of the Sonos. We had the Lavry at Grahams running off his Sonos up against his 555

We got some good results with the Chord range of coax cables.

One thing to remember is that the Lavry, like a Naim CD player will provide the signal to mains ground earth point (via a 25 Ohm resistor in the case of the Lavry) so if you have another Naim source connected you can get ground issues and a drop in sound quality. The Lavry also likes to sit in a Hydra mains arrangement.

Best of luck - the Sonos / Lavry should make a great combo.

James

Ps - and dont use the volume control on the Sonos.

Thanks James. As luck would have it I have a Hydra with a spare tail so will try that. I won a Chord Prodac on ebay which I will try when it shows up. Volume is fixed. Will confirm if those two make a difference

Tried some 24bit / 96khz vinyl rips last night through my Macbook Pro and the Lavry. My head tells me that these shouldn’t work but they sound very nice actually. Definitely different from the CD rips.

Thanks,
Wayne

Tried it with the Hyrda and Chord Prodac last night. Definte improvement, sounds more like a higher end source now. Still quite low volume compared to my CDP but just turn the wick up a bit...

Thanks for your help James

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Originally posted by Wazza69:
Tried it with the Hyrda and Chord Prodac last night. Definte improvement, sounds more like a higher end source now. Still quite low volume compared to my CDP but just turn the wick up a bit...

Thanks for your help James

Nominal output at volume setting "47" should be the same as a CDP. Are you sure there is nothing else in the way?

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Originally posted by Joe Bibb:
Nominal output at volume setting "47" should be the same as a CDP. Are you sure there is nothing else in the way?

Not sure what you mean? connections are:

Sonos (fixed volume) with Chord Prodac (75cm) to
Lavry - (volume 47, settings as above) with canare cable BNC to RCA 2m
Nait XS on CD input - volume normally at 9pm with Avondale CD Player but about 11pm with Lavry for same volume

Thanks

Different digital sources can have different output levels. He's not using it the same way as you guys did(do) so his sonic comments wont be a direct relation to his previous try either. Just turn it up until it sounds right. If you can't get it up to a normal volume then you can have some concern but I suspect all is well.

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Originally posted by js:
Different digital sources can have different output levels. He's not using it the same way as you guys did(do) so his sonic comments wont be a direct relation to his previous try either. Just turn it up until it sounds right. If you can't get it up to a normal volume then you can have some concern but I suspect all is well.

I think Graham had a Sonos, I don't recall any volume issues next to the CDP.

That's certainly different if you're familiar with this particular combo though I bet they're close and just not spot on. I'm not familiar enough with the Lavry jumper settings to remember off hand but I recall there were some. Do you think he should check the internal output jumper positions? Could also be the volume on the SONOS as James n mentioned but I think we assumed not. Nice to just default it out. On Sonos controller or computer software, go to system settings/ zone player settings find the Sonos zone in question and set the volume to fixed.

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Originally posted by js:
That's certainly different if you're familiar with this particular combo though I bet they're close and just not spot on. I'm not familiar enough with the Lavry jumper settings to remember off hand but I recall there were some. Do you think he should check the internal output jumper positions?

Yes I think that is possibly it. I have heard a little variation when compared to CD outputs, but nothing more or less than a click on the Lavry volume 46/47.

The Lavry DA10 internal jumpers should be set to "unbalanced Pin 2 hot" mode. The user manual shows how this can be done.

Wazza69,

I think Jazzfan is spot on. It sounds like you might have a jumper issue. The Lavry DA-10 normally has a balanced output on its XLR with both plus and minus voltages. Since Naim uses two-conductor unbalanced inputs, you will set jumpers internally to put the plus voltage on the correct pins, depending on how your cable is wired. Look at the manual and check your juper settings. You may also want to check how the XLR's are wired on your cable.

Charlie