USA price drop?
Posted by: Dan M on 25 April 2002
I just looked at the suggested retail prices for a Nait 5 on the NANA site, and I swear the price has gone down $150 to $1450. Is this right? If so
its nice to see. Anyone guess at why it has dropped, and is it an across the board cut?
-dan
its nice to see. Anyone guess at why it has dropped, and is it an across the board cut?
-dan
Posted on: 25 April 2002 by kentonious
I confirmed with NANA a few days ago that the
Nait 5 is now $1450. The Nait seems to be the only item with a price cut, but I didn't ask additional questions.
Nait 5 is now $1450. The Nait seems to be the only item with a price cut, but I didn't ask additional questions.
Posted on: 25 April 2002 by Chris West
Hi Dan,
You are quite correct; full marks for observance! We have recently lowered the price of the NAIT-5 from $1600 to $1450 (Ermm... just the Nait OK). Many reasons really, but suffice it to say that we used to have two Nait3 models (predecessors to the Series-5 model) and they were $1200 (non-remote controllable) and $1600 (remote version), so we have tried to make the NAIT5 more affordable to those who were feeling left out by the higher point of entry...
Regards
Chris
VP NANA
You are quite correct; full marks for observance! We have recently lowered the price of the NAIT-5 from $1600 to $1450 (Ermm... just the Nait OK). Many reasons really, but suffice it to say that we used to have two Nait3 models (predecessors to the Series-5 model) and they were $1200 (non-remote controllable) and $1600 (remote version), so we have tried to make the NAIT5 more affordable to those who were feeling left out by the higher point of entry...
Regards
Chris
VP NANA
Posted on: 25 April 2002 by Dan M
This seems like a good move by NANA. Lowering the price on the NAIT 5 will get more people into naim and, if this forum is any indication, started on the upgrade path. You've got me itchin' to replace my nait I.
-dan
-dan
Posted on: 25 April 2002 by Phil Barry
Now, if we could only drop the prices on the 52/supercap....:-)
Posted on: 26 April 2002 by Chris West
Phil,
That would be an 82/Supercap
That would be an 82/Supercap
Posted on: 26 April 2002 by John Channing
Well, given that the exchange rate has slipped from ~$1.6 to £1 to ~$1.4 to £1 in the last couple of years I would hope that all Naim gear has become cheaper in the US!
Posted on: 26 April 2002 by Matthew T
John,
They only do that if the exchange rate goes the other way
Matthew
They only do that if the exchange rate goes the other way
Matthew
Posted on: 26 April 2002 by Matthew T
Putting the prices up that is, just incase you were wondering!
Posted on: 26 April 2002 by Matthew T
On the subject...
Do the quoted prices include sales tax? If not is there a very high import duty into the U.S. or is the switch to 110V very costly?
Suffice to say I am glad that I reside in the UK when it comes to buying naim
Matthew
Do the quoted prices include sales tax? If not is there a very high import duty into the U.S. or is the switch to 110V very costly?
Suffice to say I am glad that I reside in the UK when it comes to buying naim
Matthew
Posted on: 26 April 2002 by Justin
It makes used gear from across the pond VERY attractive.
Judd
Judd
Posted on: 26 April 2002 by Chris West
John, Um...... more like 1.46 actually. Of course in the past couple of years there have been two Naim factory price increases which we have absorbed, and which offset the ER drop. Maybe nobody noticed that NANA (recommended) retail prices have largely remained steady the past few years???
Matthew, If you are an importer it's generally best not to let prices ride up and down with the tide. Sometimes we lose, sometimes we gain, but our prices our based on averages and we don't play games with currencies. Since you are in Naim's back yard you can keep that grin on your face but of course given that most customers in the USA are more interested in making a purchase that is not direct from England (with all the pitfalls that entails) there is inevitably a price differential. Bear in mind, that apart from the ER one has to account for overseas shipping, import duty, and clearance costs to get gear over. Our prices are inclusive of a five-year parts and labor warranty in the US (not applicable to gear that isn't purchased with a US receipt) and full installation/support and service stateside.....
Perhaps there is a little value added in terms of relatively local purchase? Fortunately, given that NANA has been in business for over 16 years (and that Naim is one of the first specialty audio companies to start an overseas subsidiary with an eye to providing similar customer service on both sides of the pond) we have a large and enthusiastic customer base here, for which we are extremely grateful,and to whom we have dedicated are services with our focus on the Naim brand.
Sincerely, don't get me wrong, at first blush I would think the same way as you.......but as with all things, there's a lot more to this issue than meets the eye.
Best regards,
Chris.
VP & Co-owner NANA
PS, Some years ago (1997) NANA dropped the "wholly owned by Naim Audio" part of it's title, when Chris Koster and I became Co-owners with Naim. This week we went a step further, and we are proud to announce that not only are we the exclusive US distributor of Naim products in the US, but Chris and I are the major shareholders. What this means to our US customers, is that you can expect ongoing, consistent, full-service with dedication to our favorite brand - Naim!
[This message was edited by Chris West NANA on FRIDAY 26 April 2002 at 16:01.]
Matthew, If you are an importer it's generally best not to let prices ride up and down with the tide. Sometimes we lose, sometimes we gain, but our prices our based on averages and we don't play games with currencies. Since you are in Naim's back yard you can keep that grin on your face but of course given that most customers in the USA are more interested in making a purchase that is not direct from England (with all the pitfalls that entails) there is inevitably a price differential. Bear in mind, that apart from the ER one has to account for overseas shipping, import duty, and clearance costs to get gear over. Our prices are inclusive of a five-year parts and labor warranty in the US (not applicable to gear that isn't purchased with a US receipt) and full installation/support and service stateside.....
Perhaps there is a little value added in terms of relatively local purchase? Fortunately, given that NANA has been in business for over 16 years (and that Naim is one of the first specialty audio companies to start an overseas subsidiary with an eye to providing similar customer service on both sides of the pond) we have a large and enthusiastic customer base here, for which we are extremely grateful,and to whom we have dedicated are services with our focus on the Naim brand.
Sincerely, don't get me wrong, at first blush I would think the same way as you.......but as with all things, there's a lot more to this issue than meets the eye.
Best regards,
Chris.
VP & Co-owner NANA
PS, Some years ago (1997) NANA dropped the "wholly owned by Naim Audio" part of it's title, when Chris Koster and I became Co-owners with Naim. This week we went a step further, and we are proud to announce that not only are we the exclusive US distributor of Naim products in the US, but Chris and I are the major shareholders. What this means to our US customers, is that you can expect ongoing, consistent, full-service with dedication to our favorite brand - Naim!
[This message was edited by Chris West NANA on FRIDAY 26 April 2002 at 16:01.]
Posted on: 26 April 2002 by David Dever
quote:
It makes used gear from across the pond VERY attractive.
Until it breaks--then you're stuck having to send it for service anyways.
Based on my experience with the level of "expertise" of customer-performed repairs, I doubt that any of you are up to the task of functioning as a capable import-export broker, let alone a comprehensive technician with any historical sense of brand-centric problem-solving.
If you feel that the existence of local capable service and support is an unnecessary evil, wait until you try to re-sell the units here in the States--most dealers can discern the difference between "factory" and "hack" on visual inspection alone; I've seen lots of (end user-to-user) deals fall through based on this fact (anyone want a list?!)...
Dave Dever, NANA
Posted on: 26 April 2002 by Matthew T
Chris, Dave,
I don't think the charges are that bad and am pretty sure you customers feel like they are geting go value. What you pay for in Naim we pay for in music, such is life!
cheers
Matthew
I don't think the charges are that bad and am pretty sure you customers feel like they are geting go value. What you pay for in Naim we pay for in music, such is life!
cheers
Matthew
Posted on: 26 April 2002 by Joe Rosovitz
NANA (and Naim itself) have a excellent history of service for its equipment (as seldom as that is) as well as some of the most accessible staff in the industry. Meaning, if you have a question, you can ring up Koster, West, Dever (Dave, we're gonna miss you) and they are willing to take the time to talk with you about a piece of gear or your system in general. This level of service is totally unheard of in the audio industry today, at any price ! The fact that US prices have been stable for the past couple of years only adds to the value that the NANA folks bring to Naim and to the US market. Is it worth paying for, YES. I don't think there's really any way to put a price on all this and think where we would be without them!
Joe
Joe
Posted on: 26 April 2002 by Dan M
At $1450 for the Nait 5, I think the import markup seems reasonable. At that price, it is around 1K UKP which is 200 UKP more than in Britain. For 5 years of peace of mind, and being able to get it from a dealer I trust, it seems well worth it.
Rega on the other hand seem to be sticking it to those on this side of the pond. Retail here for the P3 is $750- (ex. tax), cf UKP 298 there (inc. VAT). If you deduct VAT and multiply by 1.46, youll see over a factor of 2 markup - ouch! (FYI, I'm getting my prices from cornflake.co.uk)
-Dan
Rega on the other hand seem to be sticking it to those on this side of the pond. Retail here for the P3 is $750- (ex. tax), cf UKP 298 there (inc. VAT). If you deduct VAT and multiply by 1.46, youll see over a factor of 2 markup - ouch! (FYI, I'm getting my prices from cornflake.co.uk)
-Dan
Posted on: 26 April 2002 by Edwin
dan,
your email doesn't work. could you get in touch.
edwin
your email doesn't work. could you get in touch.
edwin
Posted on: 26 April 2002 by David Dever
quote:
what's the connection between electronics skills and business skills
You're absolutely right-I forgot to harp on the quality of used-gear packing for shipping, etc.
quote:
the only products you will see (or notice the repairs in) are ones in which any end-user servicing has been inadaquate
Or spelling...
No, one can tell pretty quickly which work is functional but sloppily done, and which work was done right by someone who knows. There are lots of other details, too, which one can use to determine if a piece of equipment was serviced before at the component replacement level, even down to the replacement screws used.
All you have to do is watch what comes past you.