On The Fly Change Between Hires and Redbook
Posted by: pcstockton on 06 January 2010
I cant believe it has come to this.... Of all people, I am going to seek advice on DA... in this Forum....
Seriously though....
Now that I am using ASIO and the M-Audio Transit, I have to stop playback then change the setting on the Transit when going between Hires and Redbook.
I would rather not resample everything to 96K in Foobar so I could leave the Transit set at 24/96 for all playback. I dont like the idea of using SRC.
So my question is.....
Does anyone know which, if any, converters out there allow for moving between the two formats seamlessly, without stopping playback, without changing settings.
Thanks in advance.
Patrick
Posted on: 07 January 2010 by Kashmir
The point here seems to be whether the M-Audio's drivers support auto sample rate switching. If they don't, you will have to switch manually. foobar in WASAPI mode (dunno about ASIO) plays whatever sample rate is sent to it, but the sound card's drivers need to recognize the rate of the file you are playing and send the correct data to foobar.
I don't think it really matters with this card though, the SQ it provides hardly makes resampling @ 24/96 detectable, so I would set it at that and play music.
Posted on: 07 January 2010 by pcstockton
Kashmir,
M-Audio does not support auto switching. Hence my question.
It allows you to set it for a range e.g., "16 bit 44.1hz to 48hz" or "24 bit 88.2 to 96hz" but you cannot play 16/44 AND 24/96 without changing the transit's settings.
This is what I need to avoid.
The problem is not with Foobar. Yes you are correct, and even with ASIO, Foobar will play whatever you throw at it.
thanks.
p
Posted on: 07 January 2010 by Kashmir
Ok, but will it auto change the rate within these ranges? For example, if set to 44.1-48Khz, will it allow bitperfect playback without resampling of files with both these rates? Sounds a bit weird, why support auto switching, but only within a limited range? What about 24/44.1, can it do that?
This is really the reason why I love sound cards with VIA Envy chipsets, great drivers and auto switching all the way, although one does have to set 24bit depth in the win control panel. I leave it for 24 all the time regardless. Sorry I know "buy this or that instead"-advice is stupid, but there you are.
Posted on: 07 January 2010 by pcstockton
Thanks Kash,
"Buy This or That" is exactly what I am looking for.
I am guessing a Juli@ PCI card might do the trick?
I was looking for exactly that kind of advice,
I assumed many here travel between 24/96 and 16/44. Having to stop everything and change settings to do so is a pain.
The settings options are similar to the following:
2in - 2out - 16 bit 44 -48
2in - 2out - 24 bit 44 -48
2in - 0out - 24 bit 88-96
etc......
No one else?
Thanks,
Patrick
Posted on: 07 January 2010 by BobF
[QUOTE]Originally posted by pcstockton:
I cant believe it has come to this.... Of all people, I am going to seek advice on DA... in this Forum....
and we thought pc stood for perfect computer knowledge
Posted on: 07 January 2010 by JYOW
Posted on: 08 January 2010 by Kashmir
quote:
Originally posted by pcstockton:
I am guessing a Juli@ PCI card might do the trick?
Patrick
A Juli@ should be nice, it is Envy-based and will do auto rate switching. Also check out the Onkyo cards, the Audiotrak HD2 and the new Cantatis card. All will sound excellent via analogue outs, but if you are running the card into a DAC, I would just get the cheapest Envy-based card available. Mind you, you will have to spend quite a lot more money than Beresford-territory on a DAC to better these cards' analogue outs.
Posted on: 08 January 2010 by pcstockton
Thanks Kash....im on it.
Posted on: 09 January 2010 by Occean
pcstockon, I am using a juli@ and it works perfectly between bitrates with both asio and wasapi.
The only drawback is that optical will only go up to 96khz while coax is 192khz, not sure if this is an issue for you. For me the coax needs to to go my av2 (96khz max) and the optical to my snait (192khz max). So exactly the wrong way around!
Posted on: 09 January 2010 by pcstockton
Occean,
Thanks. What are you doing for settings in Foobar?
Are you using ASIO? What OS?
I dont have anything over 24/96 so I am safe there.
thanks for the help,
p
Posted on: 09 January 2010 by Occean
Any settings in specific?
I use the wasapi plugin which supports exclusive mode and win7.
Posted on: 11 January 2010 by pcstockton
Occean,
NOt that I cant think of. Just wondering about anything you might be doing differently.
No SRCs or anything are needed right?
-p
Posted on: 11 January 2010 by Hook
quote:
Originally posted by pcstockton:
I cant believe it has come to this.... Of all people, I am going to seek advice on DA... in this Forum....
Seriously though....
Now that I am using ASIO and the M-Audio Transit, I have to stop playback then change the setting on the Transit when going between Hires and Redbook.
I would rather not resample everything to 96K in Foobar so I could leave the Transit set at 24/96 for all playback. I dont like the idea of using SRC.
So my question is.....
Does anyone know which, if any, converters out there allow for moving between the two formats seamlessly, without stopping playback, without changing settings.
Thanks in advance.
Patrick
Hi Patrick -
Have been looking at the Blue Circle USB Tunnel 24/96 for exactly this reason.
The good news is: no proprietary driver and no up-sampling, just plug-and-play.
The bad news is: it's an ugly little thing, and there's no 24/192 support.
Last I heard, it starts shipping at the end of this month.
Good luck.
Hook
Posted on: 12 January 2010 by Occean
quote:
Originally posted by pcstockton:
Occean,
NOt that I cant think of. Just wondering about anything you might be doing differently.
No SRCs or anything are needed right?
-p
No I am not doing anything special. And when I switch between hirez and redbook I see the the control panel on the Juli@ change appropriately.
