Round Earth / Flat Earth ?

Go here and look under "Manifesto".

Basically, flat earth refers to an underperforming class of audio components whose technology has not moved on from yesteryear and doesn't really cut the mustard by today's standards; is indeed anachronistic and wears its anachronism on its sleeve as an excuse for being not-very-good.

Round earth just means as good as it gets, using the best of modern technology, materials and methods.

You'll find round earth components are neutral, accurate, powerful, image front to back and left-to-right, have a wide band width and offer tantalising reminders of the original performances. Flat earth components sort of go thump-thump-thump in a midrangey sort of crude way that... er... reminds one of the timing with which the bongo woz smitten.

EW

Dear EW'

Do you mean, "Round earth Good, Flat Earth Bad...",?

Crikey, what does that mean? Is it sort of worth worrying about! Anyhow:

Forget all this Shyte! What I ask is, "Does it sound like players playing?" All other questions are superfluous, I would think.

Fredrik

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Originally posted by Fredrik H:
Forget all this Shyte! What I ask is, "Does it sound like players playing?" All other questions are superfluous, I would think.

Yep. Flat earth hi-fi basically means it doesn't have very much of the "fi" basically.

EW

HiFi without the "F" word? Surely not?

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Round earth just means as good as it gets, using the best of modern technology, materials and methods.

How do you explain plenty of shite round earth valve kit then?

"fi" deriv. "fidelity" = truth.

There is no objective truth.

Flat earth is about hearing what the musicians are doing.

Round earth is about presentation and seeing with your ears.

Objective truth? A worn out metaphysic is that subject/object thing Steve.

I meant only to say that to take the "fi" out of "hifi" is something of an irony when that person goes on to say that it's all about "Does it sound like players playing?"

Argumentative sods?

I've just had a thought that's probably been had a thousand times before in these parts but since I haven't seen it yet, I'll post on...

Folks are no doubt familiar with the split brain research of the 70s where experiments on cutting the corpus collosum to attempt to cure epileptic fits led to the discovery that the two hemispheres of the brain seem to have different specializations. The right hand side of the brain is more 'arty', the left hand side more mathematical/logical. The right is holistic, the left is time-sequential.

So, with the hi-fi emphasis being quite PRATy in these parts, are Naimees likely to be more analytical, logical, mathematical, with fewer visual artists, gardeners, etc.?

Just thought I'd ask.

Regards
Steve M

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Originally posted by 7V:
So, with the hi-fi emphasis being quite PRATy in these parts, are Naimees likely to be more analytical, logical, mathematical, with fewer visual artists, gardeners, etc.?

Just thought I'd ask.

Regards
Steve M

I suppose PRATy types are more likely to be headbangers and therefore not spend too much time on gardening, visual arts, poetry etc.

By the way, you're a speaker designer, what's your honest opinion of Naim amps??

EW

I don't use Naim amps in my own system but I've heard Naim amps sounding extremely good with my speakers. Also, the speaker reviewer for whom I have the most respect uses Naim amplification.

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Originally posted by 7V:
Folks are no doubt familiar with the split brain research of the 70s where experiments on cutting the corpus collosum to attempt to cure epileptic fits led to the discovery that the two hemispheres of the brain seem to have different specializations. The right hand side of the brain is more 'arty', the left hand side more mathematical/logical. The right is holistic, the left is time-sequential.

So, with the hi-fi emphasis being quite PRATy in these parts, are Naimees likely to be more analytical, logical, mathematical, with fewer visual artists, gardeners, etc.?

I don't seem to have a bias (in terms of maximum ability) towards arts or sciences, analytical or intuitive thinking. However, I'm currently a perpetual maths student for whom some combination of visual art, music and writing seems the most likely eventual career option. I can't be happy with a hi-fi that doesn't do PRAT well or lacks tonal colour [best translated as "correct timbre", for those who don't see music] and correct note-shape.

However, I can't help wondering if we appreciate rhythm primarily in one of more primitive parts of the brain, regardless of possible left/right specialisation?

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Originally posted by JeremyD:
...However, I can't help wondering if we appreciate rhythm primarily in one of more primitive parts of the brain, regardless of possible left/right specialisation?

Good point. We probably 'get down' with the reptiles.

The ultimate flat earth experience is listening to a metronome and humming to the tune to ones self.

OK, and PRAT ?

What is PRAT?

Pace, Rythem and Timing

michael

Here's the basic distinction --

Flat earthers have more FEPs and round earthers have more REPs.

Joe