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I thought that I would set up this posting to save Mike Hanson/Vuk the trouble when they decide to complain about the new layout. There's
bound to be something about it for them to moan about.

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My biggest problem so far is the new information in the header and footer of each message. At least some of this was over in the margin before, and now there's more wasted space.

By adding this information to the righthand side, they had to delimit it with more horzontal lines, which is looking rather noisy.

Also, what's that silly "PopIt" thing do? It seems rather mysterious right now. It would be nice if some it were described somewhere.

Finally, the new folder icons are ugly!

I'll probably get used to the new layout after a while.

BTW, the auto-quoting reply is kind of cool, although what I really want is threaded messages. It would usually prevent the need for quotes in the first place.

-=> Mike Hanson <=-

cheers

Nigel

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Can someone explain what that does, please?

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I just found the help page. If you push the pop-it buton, you'll find the FAQ. It looks like it's also accessible via the "faq" link at the top of the page. It states that I can specify my preferences, though, and I haven't figured out how to do that yet.

-=> Mike Hanson <=-

Seems like it will notify you via email or "pop ups" when a subject you've discussed comes up.

Sounds like those annoying "instant message" things you get in AOL.

Just had to check my wifes AOL account while she was gone. Can't understand how anyone can use AOL.

Arthur Bye

The pop-it popup allows you to make the choice of receiving updates via your email, or via . At least that how it looked from this end. There's more info here.

What I appreciate is that links to messages, that are on pages other than page 1, now go to that page, rather than the top of page 1. Nice.

Yeah, we all miss threading, but let's all realize that naim are in the hifi business. I still appreciate the presence of this forum, warts and all.

Cheers

Keith

[This message was edited by Paul Stephenson on TUESDAY 21 August 2001 at 09:46.]

That's an improvement.

Dave @ NANA

[This message was edited by David Dever on MONDAY 20 August 2001 at 22:05.]

1. The space under the name is wasted and not clearly enough separated from the text body. I would suggest putting the "member details" again underneath the name and use a vertical line separator between name and text body.
2. Move the "edit" features and profile under the message. In general you want to edit a message or find out more about somebody after reading a message, so why move up?
3. Then the title of the message, now appearing in bold, can move back next to the name of the "author" and will be more clearly separated from the text body. With the new layout the title appears in bold, but to me it's not obvious enough that it's the title. Can become confusing if somebody is using bold in a message as well.

Ciao!

Willem

-=> Mike Hanson <=-

Ciao!

Willem

P.S. Hi Mathijs, nice to hear from you. Did you finish your "scriptie" and do you know already when you'll move to GB?

Although I guess we're all a little shell-shocked with the new layout.

As far as I can make out, there's still no tree structuring. Which may be a good thing, as I find new posts are often easy to miss in the tree.

We could do with some more "GraemLinns". I'm sure the moderators could do with nA Graemlins.

Andrew

Andrew Randle
2B || !2B;
4 ^ = ?;

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Originally posted by Mick Parry:
Chaps

I thought that I would set up this posting to save Mike Hanson / Vuk the trouble when they decide to complain about the new layout.

There's bound to be something about it for them to moan about.

Yours in eager anticipation

Mick

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I've just 'Pop'ed a couple of threads and the e-mail notification (nice feature) doesn't seem to be working at the moment. (UPDATE:- takes a few minutes to get through - fine, no problem).

Two much bigger grumbles, though.

Firstly the option to 'Pop' all new threads does not appear to have been implemented. This really would be great. If we can't have this, can we please have something that will 'Pop' all the existing postings on a thread into my mailbox, so at least I can keep them together?

Secondly, I can't find any indication, either on the list of threads or when I look at one, as to whether I have 'Pop'ed it, and therefore don't need to read it. How do I know I've already 'Pop'ed it & don't need to do it again? I've already done this once!

I don't think I need to grumble about the new layout since it's already been covered.

Martin

Now it is only possible to search 1, 5, 10 or 30 days previously, or wade through everything.

It's always a nice day for it, have a good one
Steve

This "upgrade" is seeming more like a downgrade with every glance!!!!!

-=> Mike Hanson <=-

Only problem is it seems to be wasting much more of my rather small screen than it used to. Who cares, I'll just get a huge monitor. It must be worth it.

Alex

ps. kinda wish the whizkids had all snow-boarded off a cliff last weekend.

I left the world of SW and ungreatful users a year ago - and all your comments brought the whole nausea back - bluddy users - what do they know all they can say is

It is exactly what we asked for --- but not what we wanted.

The downhill trend started with the introduction of lower case letters onto chain printers.

After that it has just been cosmetic overload. Bring back the flashing light display.

:heavy humour off.

Derek

At the moment the message formats look more messy and less easy to read.

Mike, the unread message icons are still there - it's just that they've changed from a yellow light-bulb to a yellow folder symbol.

Andrew (ooh what does this button do?! )

Andrew Randle
2B || !2B;
4 ^ = ?;

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Originally posted by Mick Parry:
Chaps

I thought that I would set up this posting to save Mike Hanson / Vuk the trouble when they decide to complain about the new layout.

There's bound to be something about it for them to moan about.

Yours in eager anticipation

Mick

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Originally posted by Martin Payne:
I've just 'Pop'ed a couple of threads and the e-mail notification (nice feature)...

Martin

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the e-mail notification feature is great, but when I try to read it using my web-mail program (which doesn't parse HTML format mails) I get a screen full of gibberish, or I get logged out (how does it do that??)

Since the system can obviously send text format e-mails (it's still what gets sent if you 'e-mail this topic to a friend', can we have an option to send the 'Pop's in plain text?

cheers, Martin

P.S. Paul - please don't take this personally! In the real world of working to budgets and timescales any major new release of software may have a few glitches.

Is there a formal process we should go through to notify the developers of these problems?

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Originally posted by Andrew Randle:
Mike, the unread message icons are still there - it's just that they've changed from a yellow light-bulb to a yellow folder symbol.

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Yes, I can see those folders on the thread view, but not on the message view.

-=> Mike Hanson <=-

Thanks for your consideration! Once all the newness dies down, I will go through this topic and sort the responses. I will then talk with infopop about your feedback, perhaps some changes can be made.

I appreciate Naim's efforts to improve things here. It's no better, no worse, from my POV. Apart from that all the info that was previously contained in the sidebar now goes in to the footer - wastes vertical space.

I would prefer to see the old forum archive on line again (the posts, the information - our old diaries) for access, before further inconsequential changes are made to the appearance of this one.

I don't mean to sound ungrateful, and appreciate that there may be more meaningful "below the skin" changes to this new update that us users see on the surface. Overall, still pleased to have this place to communicate with Naim, and with each other.

Rico - Save the Kans!

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Originally posted by Keith Mattox:
What I appreciate is that links to messages, that are on pages other than page 1, now go to that page, rather than the top of page 1. Nice.
Cheers

Keith

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Keith,

whilst this may be true, the 'e-mail this page to a friend' feature is still broken - if you do this for the second page it just sends the first page.

Still, search feature working properly will be a real benefit.

cheers, Martin