Wooden support
Posted by: Carl Leermakers on 20 January 2004
Dear all
there is (or used to be a couple of years ago) a company making fully wooden supports (glued, no metal anywhere) which some of you recommended in the mana/quadraspire etc. debate (fraim is another game level of course!). In its ads the one-level tables (which you could build up) were I think always shown with Naim equipment. Can anyone refresh my memory on what company this is/was?
there is (or used to be a couple of years ago) a company making fully wooden supports (glued, no metal anywhere) which some of you recommended in the mana/quadraspire etc. debate (fraim is another game level of course!). In its ads the one-level tables (which you could build up) were I think always shown with Naim equipment. Can anyone refresh my memory on what company this is/was?
Posted on: 20 January 2004 by Geoff P
Posted on: 20 January 2004 by Carl Leermakers
Exactly! Thanks Geoff!
Posted on: 20 January 2004 by Carl Leermakers
Does it work for an LP12 as well??
If that's true then my significant other will be so happy to get rid of the Mana gear that she probably would buy me a 52/SCap herself (well, one can dream).
Searching the forum I see quite positive comments on Isoblue, and some of you even use it for their Sondek. Has anyone done some A/B-ing between Isoblue and Mana wall shelf, or by putting a soundframe on top of the Isoblue etc?
If that's true then my significant other will be so happy to get rid of the Mana gear that she probably would buy me a 52/SCap herself (well, one can dream).
Searching the forum I see quite positive comments on Isoblue, and some of you even use it for their Sondek. Has anyone done some A/B-ing between Isoblue and Mana wall shelf, or by putting a soundframe on top of the Isoblue etc?
Posted on: 20 January 2004 by John G.
quote:
Originally posted by Geoff P:
Maybe it was ISOBLUE! which is here:
http://www.isoblue.com/product/prodfacts.html
GEOFF
How do you level it?
Posted on: 20 January 2004 by Carl Leermakers
argument of PR accepted (and I don't have a answer) but really, apart from "Those Who Need To Know Because They Design The Things", does anyone really care WHY something works (or theoretically should not work)?
Anyway, JN's pictures of a few months ago, and the Isoblue web site, convinced my significant other this evening, who seems to be (for the very first time) HAPPY about a hi-fi choice of mine. What more can one desire...
Geoff, thanx for the info!
Anyway, JN's pictures of a few months ago, and the Isoblue web site, convinced my significant other this evening, who seems to be (for the very first time) HAPPY about a hi-fi choice of mine. What more can one desire...
Geoff, thanx for the info!
Posted on: 21 January 2004 by Ron Brinsdon
Hello Carl,
Over the Christmas break I replaced my ageing "Tripods" with Isoblue and am extremely pleased with the result both in terms of sound and their appearance - cherry to match my Intros. I can not justify the change in sound in technical jargon but it is now more focussed and involving than before and my wife likes the Isoblue so thats a major result for me.
I cannot use my LP12 on the Isoblue top shelf because of very bouncy floorboards so this sits on a cherry Quadraspire wall shelf which I am also well pleased with - unlike another of their products the (cherry again) QCD150 storage unit which I consider one of our worst buys and vastly overpriced.
But I digress, one problem I did have with the Isoblue was levelling. I took it very slowly a layer at a time checking before and after the kit was in place and all was well - until the morning after when it appeared to have shifted and settled out of true. As someone else mentioned, because the spikes are only in the base, it can be a pain to adjust especially when fully loaded.
This may not be such a problem with concrete or more stable floors. Another factor could be that when the supports are added to each shelf, they are a VERY tight fit and unless they are mated absolutely fully there could be some play and settlement afterwards.
Have fun,
Ron
Over the Christmas break I replaced my ageing "Tripods" with Isoblue and am extremely pleased with the result both in terms of sound and their appearance - cherry to match my Intros. I can not justify the change in sound in technical jargon but it is now more focussed and involving than before and my wife likes the Isoblue so thats a major result for me.
I cannot use my LP12 on the Isoblue top shelf because of very bouncy floorboards so this sits on a cherry Quadraspire wall shelf which I am also well pleased with - unlike another of their products the (cherry again) QCD150 storage unit which I consider one of our worst buys and vastly overpriced.
But I digress, one problem I did have with the Isoblue was levelling. I took it very slowly a layer at a time checking before and after the kit was in place and all was well - until the morning after when it appeared to have shifted and settled out of true. As someone else mentioned, because the spikes are only in the base, it can be a pain to adjust especially when fully loaded.
This may not be such a problem with concrete or more stable floors. Another factor could be that when the supports are added to each shelf, they are a VERY tight fit and unless they are mated absolutely fully there could be some play and settlement afterwards.
Have fun,
Ron
Posted on: 21 January 2004 by Carl Leermakers
Thanks Ron, that's helpful.
Posted on: 21 January 2004 by J.N.
Here's a pic of a friend's simple system on Isoblue, which I think looks (and sounds) great.
Posted on: 21 January 2004 by smike42
I've just put my system on to isoblue and am very pleased with it. I have two stacks each of 6 levels with lp12 on one and cds3 on the other. My system has never sounded or looked better - but I have added a few new boxes recently too which have also improved the sound. In reality I now only listen to music - the system has disappeared as it just performs as I want.
Smike
Smike
Posted on: 22 January 2004 by Laurie Saunders
I`ve always believed that a material with high internal damping would work best, Under my TT I have tried glass, chipboard and MDF, all of various thicknesses, and various different pointy thingys....I stuck with 30mm thick mdf
Laurie S
Laurie S
Posted on: 23 January 2004 by ET
I am interested in doing a new DIY wooden rack, so I appreciate both the isoblue and the other DIY in this thread. I would assume the wooden racks are somewhat wobbly/low mass by design to disipate energy and other things I don't really understand. I am thinking that a record storage unit on the bottom of my rack(s) would be nice, for ease of use, and by adding serious mass to the rack bottom, but I am wondering if that is counter to the design philosophy of the wooden racks. Any suggestions/thoughts?
thanks
thanks