French TV contestants made to inflict 'torture'

Posted by: Sniper on 17 March 2010

French TV contestants made to inflict 'torture'

From the BBC

'A French TV documentary features people in a spoof game show administering what they are told are near lethal electric shocks to rival contestants.

Those taking part are told to pull levers to inflict shocks - increasing in voltage - upon their opponents.

Although unaware that the contestants were actors and there was no electrical current, 82% of participants in the Game of Death agreed to pull the lever.

Programme makers say they wanted to expose the dangers of reality TV shows.

They say the documentary shows how many participants in the setting of a TV show will agree to act against their own principles or moral codes when ordered to do something extreme.

The Game of Death has all the trappings of a traditional TV quiz show, with a roaring crowd chanting "punishment" and a glamorous hostess urging the players on.

Christophe Nick, the maker of the documentary, said they were "amazed" that so many participants obeyed the sadistic orders of the game show presenter.

"They are not equipped to disobey," he told AFP.

"They don't want to do it, they try to convince the authority figure that they should stop, but they don't manage to."

Yale experiment

The results reflect those of a similar experiment carried out almost 50 years ago at Yale University by social psychologist Stanley Milgram.

Participants took the role of a teacher, delivering what they believed were shocks to an actor every time they answered a question incorrectly.

Mr Nick says that his experiment shows that the TV element further increases people's willingness to obey.

"With Milgram, 62% of people obeyed an abject authority. In the setting of television, it's 80%," he told Reuters.

The documentary was broadcast on the state-owned France 2 channel on Wednesday evening'.

UN-BLOODY-BELIEVABLE
Posted on: 18 March 2010 by rodwsmith
I took part in the Milgram experiment a few years ago as part of a Channel 4 thing (with Derren Brown). I hadn't heard of it previously.

The thing is that there is artifice going on. Although all the cameras were completely hidden and we had been told beforehand that it was not part of the programme and was not being filmed. But somehow I knew that, it being: Channel 4, the middle of London, the 21st century, I wasn't actually electrocuting anyone, or at least that the reactions I was hearing were taped or faked or exagerrated something.

Nevertheless, I'm pleased to say, I stopped once I got to the point when I said to the 'scientist' that I couldn't see the point, and I was hearing noises of pain rather than discomfort.
"You must continue" he said.
"Why?"
"Otherwise the experiment will be invalid"
"Why?"
He couldn't answer the second "why?" so I stopped.

But I think these days that people, like the French television audience, inately know that you would not get publically sanctioned harm to others, and that therefore there is something else afoot, and that's why they carried on.

People are nicer than the Milgram/French TV suggests. Although I suppose Nazi Germany was more recent than we may care to believe.
Posted on: 18 March 2010 by Sniper
quote:
Originally posted by rodwsmith:

People are nicer than the Milgram/French TV suggests.


I hope so.
Posted on: 18 March 2010 by Derek Wright
What surprises me is that participants had not heard of the original experiments and so were able to resist - or perhaps they had heard of the experiments and were just playing along to amuse/shock the punters.

There were some other experiments in which the volunteers were divided into prisoners and warders and the warders developed incredibly cruel and vicious habits re the "prisoners".

This experiment became so nasty that it was not able to run for the full scheduled time.
Posted on: 18 March 2010 by Blueknowz
Didn't Jimmy Carr host a milder version of this?
Distraction
The game show where brave contestants attempt to rise above such trivial distractions as cactus buzzers, nude middle-aged dancers and electrocution
Posted on: 18 March 2010 by Steve Bull
quote:
Originally posted by Derek Wright:
What surprises me is that participants had not heard of the original experiments and so were able to resist - or perhaps they had heard of the experiments and were just playing along to amuse/shock the punters.

There were some other experiments in which the volunteers were divided into prisoners and warders and the warders developed incredibly cruel and vicious habits re the "prisoners".

This experiment became so nasty that it was not able to run for the full scheduled time.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...rd_prison_experiment