new compact digital camera
Posted by: scottyhammer on 14 February 2008
hi guys,
im after a nice compact digital camera that will take brilliant all round pictures and has a fast start up time and is especially good at close-up shots for my work.
ive got my eye on an olympus mju840 @ £150 or olympus fe290 @ £130. these have dual image stabaliser and down to 5cm macro capabilities.
have you recently bought a compact camera and did you research before buying ? or do you recommend anything else.
your inputs are welcomed. regards, scotty
im after a nice compact digital camera that will take brilliant all round pictures and has a fast start up time and is especially good at close-up shots for my work.
ive got my eye on an olympus mju840 @ £150 or olympus fe290 @ £130. these have dual image stabaliser and down to 5cm macro capabilities.
have you recently bought a compact camera and did you research before buying ? or do you recommend anything else.
your inputs are welcomed. regards, scotty
Posted on: 17 February 2008 by northpole
Kuma
Nikon have just announced their new D60 which is the first 'entry level' dslr having the 'live view' feature which comes with all compact cameras ie you can look at the image you are framing up through the rear display screen. I think it has the new 12mp sensor and hopefully the bang up to date (for the next few days anyway!!
) processing engine. This will replace the D40X, the D40 scheduled to continue in the short term.
Your photos on this forum (particularly lighting and framing) have been superb and easily justify better quality gear for you to blow up at home - the resolution of these new dslr's is incredible.
Peter
Nikon have just announced their new D60 which is the first 'entry level' dslr having the 'live view' feature which comes with all compact cameras ie you can look at the image you are framing up through the rear display screen. I think it has the new 12mp sensor and hopefully the bang up to date (for the next few days anyway!!

Your photos on this forum (particularly lighting and framing) have been superb and easily justify better quality gear for you to blow up at home - the resolution of these new dslr's is incredible.
Peter
Posted on: 17 February 2008 by kuma
quote:This will replace the D40X, the D40 scheduled to continue in the short term.
Woot.
I am going bargain hunting.

Peter,
I'll never *frame* any of these pix. Only for web vewing only.
But I know a better lense will help, eh?
A friend showed up with his D70 but he had some crazy 3k lense on it. We shot the same pix from he same angle. His was indeed a way better than mine as far as the resolution and details go.
Posted on: 17 February 2008 by northpole
I have some great Nikon stuff for my 35mm slrs but I've read somewhere that you need to be careful with lenses for digi slr's in that the rear lens element surfaces need a special anti-reflective coating - possibly due to the reflective nature of the sensor(?) - a non-issue with film cameras.
I'm sure there are many other issues such as the difference in film size compared with sensor area - unless of course you are going to fork out on a D3!!
The thing that impressed me recently was how far into a current budget dslr image I was able to zoom using photoshop before pixels started to shout compared with my, admittedly old hat, Canon g5.
For the meantime, despite the nuisance factor, I am sticking with film - similar fascination for me as vinyl!!
Peter
I'm sure there are many other issues such as the difference in film size compared with sensor area - unless of course you are going to fork out on a D3!!
The thing that impressed me recently was how far into a current budget dslr image I was able to zoom using photoshop before pixels started to shout compared with my, admittedly old hat, Canon g5.
For the meantime, despite the nuisance factor, I am sticking with film - similar fascination for me as vinyl!!
Peter
Posted on: 17 February 2008 by scottyhammer
kuma,
great pics as usual.....do you use a tripod to take these macro shots or are they hand held shots ? i will post some here using the new panny when it arrives - hope i get great results like yours.
regards, scotty.
great pics as usual.....do you use a tripod to take these macro shots or are they hand held shots ? i will post some here using the new panny when it arrives - hope i get great results like yours.
regards, scotty.
Posted on: 17 February 2008 by Julian H
Kuma
Please bear in mind that many of the DSLR cameras available are bundled with poor "starter" lenses. Also, a DSLR will need a proper macro lens do make many of the photos you currently show here.
Best wishes, J
Please bear in mind that many of the DSLR cameras available are bundled with poor "starter" lenses. Also, a DSLR will need a proper macro lens do make many of the photos you currently show here.
Best wishes, J
Posted on: 17 February 2008 by kuma
Scotty,
Someone on this board told me to get a tripod for a low light shot but I never use one for the macro shots.
I lose the mobility and spontenuity. ( I frame the pix whilst I navigate via an LCD )
Besides, I managed to brake it. :x
Just hold your gut in and hold your breath.
I think I shot this one with a triopod since I had to get on the ladder.
It's still a shitty shot.
I'll await for your *soctty sondek* shots in near furture.
Someone on this board told me to get a tripod for a low light shot but I never use one for the macro shots.
I lose the mobility and spontenuity. ( I frame the pix whilst I navigate via an LCD )
Besides, I managed to brake it. :x
Just hold your gut in and hold your breath.

I think I shot this one with a triopod since I had to get on the ladder.
It's still a shitty shot.

I'll await for your *soctty sondek* shots in near furture.

Posted on: 17 February 2008 by kuma
quote:Originally posted by Julian H:
Also, a DSLR will need a proper macro lens do make many of the photos you currently show here.
Oh..
So you have to buy a macro lens separately?
Posted on: 18 February 2008 by scottyhammer
kuma,
how do you remain so steady when taking macro shots ? even when holding your belly in and holding your breath it must be awkward.
but you do get great results - your camera must have a good image stabiliser.
regards, scotty
how do you remain so steady when taking macro shots ? even when holding your belly in and holding your breath it must be awkward.
but you do get great results - your camera must have a good image stabiliser.
regards, scotty
Posted on: 18 February 2008 by Julian H
quote:Oh..
So you have to buy a macro lens separately?
Kuma
Yes, you would to replicate many of the images you show here! You are probably better off sticking to the compact for web work.
quote:and holding your breath it must be awkward.
Scotty
You should not hold your breath when taking a photo; breathe gently and normally, your shots should be sharper.
J
Posted on: 18 February 2008 by scottyhammer
really ! ok ill give it a whirl when it arrives.
cheers, scotty
cheers, scotty
Posted on: 18 February 2008 by kuma
Scotty,
Some macro exercise.
I screwed up on the focus on this one. It should have been on the word *Akiva*. Not the wire behind it!
ok. This one is a bit better. ( a focus on the Linn logo )
Moving right along. I navigate with the camera in my hand find the comfortable composition and cropping. FWIW, I do not re-crop the pix in post. No triopod.
I had three other shots like this but didn't make the final cut.
One thing good about digicam is that no cost of processing. So, shoot enough to get the one you are happy with.
all you need is *one* good shot.
Discard the rest.
So have at it and have fun!
I have to admit that speakers and turntable shots are pretty hard. it's just a box and in the case of turntable/arm/cartridge, I have to be careful not to foul up anything. ( you sure don't want an arm with a cartridge without a stylus guard bouncing on the table or anything )
p.s. Jualin. I swear i had to hold my breath!
Some macro exercise.

I screwed up on the focus on this one. It should have been on the word *Akiva*. Not the wire behind it!

ok. This one is a bit better. ( a focus on the Linn logo )

Moving right along. I navigate with the camera in my hand find the comfortable composition and cropping. FWIW, I do not re-crop the pix in post. No triopod.
I had three other shots like this but didn't make the final cut.

One thing good about digicam is that no cost of processing. So, shoot enough to get the one you are happy with.
all you need is *one* good shot.
Discard the rest.
So have at it and have fun!
I have to admit that speakers and turntable shots are pretty hard. it's just a box and in the case of turntable/arm/cartridge, I have to be careful not to foul up anything. ( you sure don't want an arm with a cartridge without a stylus guard bouncing on the table or anything )
p.s. Jualin. I swear i had to hold my breath!
Posted on: 18 February 2008 by northpole
Kuma
Your digi advantage was driven home to me last evening when I dropped a slide film in to be developed and mounted (not scanned to cd or printed or anything else). I was quite surprised to be advised the cost would be £13 (~US$25)
To put that into context, a discount on line store offer to process and mount 5 films for similar money. Too bad I was in a 'hurry' - won't get it back until Friday evening. So yeah, digi certainly has its moments!!
With regard to hand held shots, the technique often described in mags is to frame the shot, stabilise yourself as much as possible by leaning on any solid object and take the photo as you breath out. Allegedly that's when you are most relaxed and least likely to shake - especially if you have been holding your breath for any length of time!!
Peter
Your digi advantage was driven home to me last evening when I dropped a slide film in to be developed and mounted (not scanned to cd or printed or anything else). I was quite surprised to be advised the cost would be £13 (~US$25)

With regard to hand held shots, the technique often described in mags is to frame the shot, stabilise yourself as much as possible by leaning on any solid object and take the photo as you breath out. Allegedly that's when you are most relaxed and least likely to shake - especially if you have been holding your breath for any length of time!!
Peter
Posted on: 19 February 2008 by Julian H
quote:p.s. Julian. I swear i had to hold my breath!
Kuma
The best advise is to breathe gently and press the shutter on the exhale. Not that you need any advise on taking photos!
J
Posted on: 20 February 2008 by scottyhammer
panny arrived today ! its on charge,then will read the manual, then ill start to snap.
will post some pics later.
scotty
will post some pics later.
scotty
Posted on: 20 February 2008 by kuma
Scotty,
Any luck yet?
Any luck yet?
Posted on: 20 February 2008 by northpole
He's still practicing his breathing exercises!!
O-o-o-o-o-h-h-h-h-h-m-m-m-m-m-m-m!!!
Peter
O-o-o-o-o-h-h-h-h-h-m-m-m-m-m-m-m!!!

Peter
Posted on: 20 February 2008 by scottyhammer
patience lads patience !
im still digesting the destructions - will post real soon. lets just say im impressed so far.
scotty
im still digesting the destructions - will post real soon. lets just say im impressed so far.
scotty
Posted on: 21 February 2008 by scottyhammer
HERES THE NEW PANNY TZ3 - taken with the old sony w100.
ITS GOT A NICE BIG 3" SCREEN AND IS VERY SLIM WITH A WIDE ANGLE LENS.





ITS GOT A NICE BIG 3" SCREEN AND IS VERY SLIM WITH A WIDE ANGLE LENS.
Posted on: 21 February 2008 by scottyhammer
Im pleased with the build quality and style.
the panny is very easy to use but you can overide as much as you choose to take pics manually. the wide angle lens is great as is the macro capability and the lovelly 3" lcd is superb for framing your shots. its pretty fast too. it fits in your pocket just right.
ive only just got it and havent had much time to go out n play with it...but i took a couple of snaps of our garden and surrounding farm/fields on a VERY DULL DAY -today and the camera coped very well. indoor shots especially with macro setting are very good. so all in all SO FAR im pretty pleased.
scotty
the panny is very easy to use but you can overide as much as you choose to take pics manually. the wide angle lens is great as is the macro capability and the lovelly 3" lcd is superb for framing your shots. its pretty fast too. it fits in your pocket just right.
ive only just got it and havent had much time to go out n play with it...but i took a couple of snaps of our garden and surrounding farm/fields on a VERY DULL DAY -today and the camera coped very well. indoor shots especially with macro setting are very good. so all in all SO FAR im pretty pleased.
scotty
Posted on: 21 February 2008 by scottyhammer
heres a few shots - more on system pics later.




Posted on: 21 February 2008 by scottyhammer
heres a few of my garden and surrounding farm area - its a VERY DULL DAY TODAY so i think its done a pretty fine job. cant wait to take it out and about to see what it can do!
note the wood pigeon on top of the tree thats been cut.



note the wood pigeon on top of the tree thats been cut.

Posted on: 21 February 2008 by scottyhammer
INTERESTING ONE THIS - I OVERODE THE FLASH AND TURNED IT OFF TO GET THIS REALLY MOODY SHOT OF THE 17D3 CART.

Posted on: 21 February 2008 by GML
Very nice Scotty, but why do I get the feeling that the 17d3 shots are just for me?
Regards
George.
Regards
George.
Posted on: 21 February 2008 by scottyhammer
george 

Posted on: 21 February 2008 by scottyhammer
wide angle lens in action - would never have got both speakers in same shot from listening position with the sony !
