Anthony Gallo speakers + Naim kit = ?

Posted by: yannzola on 23 January 2004

Some of you will probably vomit at the thought... but I'm seriously considering trading in my Epos es12's for a pair of Gallo Micros. My design concious wife + our cramped living space demands a new speaker solution...

Will this set-up work? Have any of you actually auditioned these puupies? I'm in states, and no one here carries them...

Perhaps you have another suggestion? These speakers must be "really" small, musical, and flexible in terms of placement.

help?

y.

NAC102 + SUPERCAP
NACDS+PSCD
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Posted on: 23 January 2004 by yannzola
Thanks reg.
Yeah.. I figured the Gallo reviews were hype. More AV than hi-fi. But I'm desperate. Unfotunately, the Neat Elites are even bigger than the Epos es12's... and appear to need about the same amount of buffer from the back wall. I need something tiny... or wall /ceiling mountable.

I'm in hell...
How large are Totem 1's? <sigh>
Posted on: 23 January 2004 by Geofiz
The Totem 1's are about the same size (313 x 167 x 227 mm) as your Epos es12's and do need to be placed away from the wall for best sound.

You may want to look at the Totem Mites (270 x 152 x227 mm; I use them on a 4th system driven by 32.5/HiCap/250). Paradigm mini-mites are about the same size.

Or the Totem home theater speakers Dreamcatcher or rainmaker models. You can check them out at www.totemacoustic.com as they seem to have changed their web address and web site over the new year.

Good luck with your search.
Posted on: 23 January 2004 by okyknot
AVI Neutrons are very small, (about as small as it reasonably gets), work well close to a wall, are very pretty, sound great and work well with Naim. Sounds like a perfect solution.
Posted on: 23 January 2004 by Tuan
quote:
Originally posted by yannzola:
Thanks reg.
Yeah.. I figured the Gallo reviews were hype. More AV than hi-fi. But I'm desperate. Unfotunately, the Neat Elites are even bigger than the Epos es12's... and appear to need about the same amount of buffer from the back wall. I need something tiny... or wall /ceiling mountable.

I'm in hell...
How large are Totem 1's? <sigh>


Try the Signature B&W made for Home Theatre. Top notch sound, look very trendy and flat.
Posted on: 23 January 2004 by yannzola
quote:
Originally posted by Tuan:
Try the Signature B&W made for Home Theatre. Top notch sound, look very trendy and flat.


ooooh. Nice recomendation. I didn't realize B&W did the wall mounted "lifestyle" thing. Nice.
The Nautilus SCM1 looks interesting... but the FPM series would be ideal. Anyone ever audition these as main speakers?

Thanks!
Posted on: 23 January 2004 by yannzola
Speaking of tiny speakers... has anyone heard the Morel Vivace's?

Any good?

y.
Posted on: 24 January 2004 by connon price
Y,

no one mentioned the Totem Arro which is described thusly by its people...

ARRO

The Arro has been attributed many accolades internationally and has a worldwide following that bridges gender, economics and cultures. Their ultra slim compact design allows for
flexible and varied placement possibilities making them
an aesthetic room-pleasing addition. In normal applications, they have been classified as seductive, alluring and omni-directional
in character.

For the attentive listener who supports the Arro with the appropriate electronics, the ensuring results almost defy the laws of physics. Bass extension that seems incredulous and holography that defies description. Their great
frequency extension and exemplary harmonics
blend in a phase perfect conjuction that seems to transmit the “true” essence of any musical presentation.

If you would like authentic-sounding performances where time and place seem to have no dimension of their own, experience the Arro.


....That last sentence kinda mystifies me, but I do think they are fine little speakers. Not real loud, though. It is a floor standing speaker, would that work? I don't remember you mentioning wall mount specifically.

c

This picture makes them look kind of large. I think it is a four inch woofer.
Posted on: 24 January 2004 by David Stewart
Here's a novel approach to minimising the space taken by speakers. Produced by Wharfedale and called the Loud Panel it uses NXT technology (whatever that is?) to produce a speaker the size of a small picture frame and only millimetres thick. By all accounts they sound good-ish, but probably not quite up to HiFi standards, but who knows what might happen in the future.
http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/nxt.htm

David
Posted on: 24 January 2004 by Jedi
Never personally heard an NXT anything that worked at all well.
The Gallo's are totally pants.

If you like the B&W thing they do something called a signature eight which is their £2.5k floor stander in an in wall configuration.

They work incredibly well and of course take up no floor space. Sound dependant on wall construction but they do a 'pre mount back box' which is in effect a 'matrixed' cabinet.

They do other in wall things which are proper speakers and work well.

Might work for you, Yannzola.

_______________
Hmmm, upgrades.
Posted on: 25 January 2004 by Eric Barry
Linn Katans, Tukans, or Kans on a wall-mount? At least those are designed to go tight up against the wall.

--Eric
Posted on: 26 January 2004 by yannzola
Thanks for all the suggestions! Well... I managed to find a Gallo dealer in town and spent a little time auditioning the micros. Uh... yeah. Not exactly hi-fi. Not at all musical. What were all those reviewers smoking?

However, the same dealer had a pair of tiny (25.7x15.6x18.5 cm) Dali Royal Menuet's. These actually sounded decent. Plus these are designed to be up against a wall, and small enough to be mounted with ease. Hmmm.... So afr these are the winners. Check em out here

I've never heard Linn Katans, Tukans, or Kans. I'll take a listen to those as well.

y.
Posted on: 26 January 2004 by solid state
The Gallo's are utter cr*p - like joke speakers

Totem Arro's rock BIG time
Posted on: 26 January 2004 by yannzola
So... I've listened to the Dali Royal Menuets. These sound pretty good considering their =tiny= size. After a bit-o-research I also found the Dynaudio 42W's,which also appear to fit my quality/size/mounting option flexability criteria.

What do you folks thing of Dynaudio? I've never heard em myself.

Some other names that popped up in my search for decent "miniature" speakers:
AVI NuNuetrons
Elac CL310i
Heybrook Prima 2 (on the big side)
Mission 750LE
Ruark Epilogue
Tannoy Mercury M1

y.
Posted on: 26 January 2004 by hi fi fo fum
Naimgain what took you so long?????
And I second the Petites and also give the CYRUS CLS 50's a try
Posted on: 26 January 2004 by okyknot
Neat Petites do the trick.
Thanks Naimgaim.

Dan,
Atlanta, Ga.
Posted on: 26 January 2004 by terryborth
For what it is worht I have a pair of totem arrows which Iuse with my television. I hooked them up to a cds2/xps/52/supercap and 250 and was very inpressed indeed. In about 100 hours they break in and provide a nice sound run at 4 oms. These speaker are well reviewed, Last octive alittle short on the low end but they roll the base out so it is not botherson. Major concern is "how do they get so much good sounding base out of such small speaker $1,100 US dollars. Made in Canada (the second greatest speaker nation behind England.

PS well deserved positive reviews on disappearing speakers and good sound stage and not real particular with listening possition for good sound.

Terry in Bellingham Wasdhington State USA
Posted on: 27 January 2004 by yannzola
quote:
Originally posted by NAIMGAIM:
and Neat Petites Wink


Yeah... I was going to add them to the list, but at 300mm x 200mm x 180mm they are are too big... nearly the same size as the Epos ES12 they would be replacing.

I'm looking for =wee= speakers (8 liters or less)... that I can place near/on a rear wall.
Posted on: 27 January 2004 by Rob Doorack
How about Epos ELS3s? They're a wee 270 mm H x 174mm W x 195mm deep. I haven't heard them myself but the reviews in the UK and US have been uniformly excellent.
Posted on: 17 February 2004 by yannzola
quote:
Originally posted by connon price:
Y,

no one mentioned the Totem Arro which is described thusly by its people...

...It is a floor standing speaker, would that work? I don't remember you mentioning wall mount specifically.

c



Hey Connon! I didn't recognize your name until now. Are you still at Hawthorne? You may remember the space I'm refering too... since you were the one who installed my kit originally.

y.
(yann)
Posted on: 17 February 2004 by Matt F
quote:
Originally posted by solid state:
The Gallo's are utter cr*p - like joke speakers.


Well, Gramaphone said:

"That's some testament to just what the minute Gallos can do, but more to the point is that the Nucleus Micro speakers and subwoofer integrate so well that everything from solo recitals to big orchestral works sound natural and involving. Yes, if you push the system hard it takes on a rough, compressed tonality, but at sensible levels the Gallo system has a rightness that's hard not to like, along with excellent imaging and fine presence."

And HiFi+ said:

"If you have need of a system that is at once discrete and musically engaging, majoring on communication, clarity and transparency, then look no further. Indeed, if it's the latter qualities that you prize then the Gallo Micros could easily be your speaker of choice regardless of type. Don't confuse these with the six in a box toys that everybody and their wife seems to be offering these days. This is a genuine hi-fi speaker. All it needs is someone to treat it that way. "

Obviously they were both seriously mistaken.

Okay so there are issues with the Micro's, namely that they ideally require a high 120Hz crossover which can give away the location of a subwoofer. The similar but larger A-Diva's are probably a better bet as they reach somewhat lower (80Hz).

Of course they are not to everyone's taste but to suggest they are simply crap or, worse still, to liken them to Bose is plainly ridiculous.

Matt.