Oh cruel ironic fate!
Posted by: Willito on 17 October 2003
Imagine my joy last week to take delivery of my CDS3. Close your eyes and share with me a moment the patience, love and satisfaction with which I have listened to it slowly burn in this week.
But my mistress fate is cruel! A small insignificant matter required me to power the system down for less than a minute. One by one as the instruments powered up, their badges beamed brightly as I made my way slowly up the stack to the source. I am sure that you can guess what happened next.
Stress, swearing, sweat!
A frantic call to Billy Vee was able to diagnose the problem as a blown main fuse in the XPS2. (Oh lucky me, that I managed to flick the switch just at the peak of the sine wave. Time to play the lottery I guess, as this weekend it clearly could be me.) Unfortunately they do not have any replacement parts, and so a new fuse will need to be ordered from Naim on Monday. Adding insult to injury I am leaving on a business trip Monday, and will not be back until Saturday. Until then, my beloved CDS3 will remain dark.
Talk about being the man who had it all and watched it float away!
Pardon the pathos and the melodrama, but I thought you would appreciate the irony.
Yours with a stiff upper lip,
Willito (otherwise known as Job)
Posted on: 20 October 2003 by Nime
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Toy:
_Unfused boss!_
Firing someone for botching a fuse is a bit ott I think. A verbal warning would/would have suffice(d), surely not?
People can learn from their mistakes, or do you enjoy having a high turnover of staff?
Steve.
What if the blown fuse was protecting the case of faulty equipment from live mains.....?

Nime
Everyone has the right to be wrong.
Posted on: 20 October 2003 by domfjbrown
quote:
Originally posted by Minky:
Hey, I suggested a _little_ nail.
He he he - good thing I came into this thread late - I was going to say "use a milk bottle top" - tee hee (don't - seriously, it's very dangerous!).
If I'd paid what I would consider a lot of money on a CD5 and have the thing blow on the first switch on, I'd probably take it back and demand a different player - it's inexcusable...
I've never (touch wood) had a hifi fuse blow i my life - though the stupid boiler kept tripping our consumer unit out while the NAIT was on - surprised the thing didn't either blow a fuse and/or blow my speakers - not funny....
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Posted on: 20 October 2003 by Richard Dane
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Toy:
I managed to blow a fuse on my Densen B300XS power amp - it was caused by attaching the mains lead whilst the amp was switched on.
How gutted I felt until I discovered that the Densen has a holder in there that stores a spare fuse. A few seconds later normality was restored.
I notice that my CDX has a holder for a spare fuse right by where the fuse is slotted. Why oh why can't they stick a spare fuse there? 
It would make sense, and only costs a few pence.
Regards,
Steve.
Steve,
now all Naim equipment (apart from the preamps obviously) comes as new with a spare fuse inside the fuse holder.
Richard
Posted on: 20 October 2003 by Richard Dane
OK all,
Due to the number of contributions making references to replacing the case fuses with either uprated or "unrated" items, I'm closing this thread.
It only leaves me to remind
everybody that the case fuses are carefully rated to comply with CE regulations and are there to protect not only the equipment but also you and others from risk of electrocution or fire under certain fault conditions.
Even if you feel you are willing to bear that risk and risk your family's or your neighbour's lives then at least spare a thought for the poor sap who buys your kit second-hand in 10 or so years time unwittingly taking the same risk because you forgot to replace the case fuse with the correctly rated item.....

Richard
Posted on: 20 October 2003 by Greg Beatty
In a related matter...
I believe he mentioned that he turned on the green boxes and saved the CDS3 for LAST in the powerup sequence.
Isn't this BACKWARDS to what Naim recommend? I always power up the sources FIRST - then the preamp - wait for it be "on" - then the amp. Done the other way, there is the risk of a surge to the speakers - definitly a bad thing.
- GregB
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Posted on: 20 October 2003 by Geofiz
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Toy:
_Unfused boss!_
Firing someone for botching a fuse is a bit ott I think. A verbal warning would/would have suffice(d), surely not?
People can learn from their mistakes, or do you enjoy having a high turnover of staff?
Regards,
Steve.
Steve,
In my sphere of work, replacement fuses are a must and critical that they are with the equipment in all cases. When you work in a remote area using specialised electrical equipment that costs in $100K plus range and the fuses are available, this type of non-standard rigging can be extremely costly if the instrument is damaged. I usually end dealing with extreme high voltages and amperages, hence when a fuse blows,it is usually for a very good reason. Hence anything other using a fuse is unacceptable and extremely unsafe.
Posted on: 20 October 2003 by Steve Toy
Geofiz,
I totally agree with your evaluation of the risk situation. I just think that firing a guy in the first instance when there wasn't actually a real problem - only a potential one, is a bit harsh and this speaks volumes as to whether you are a decent and fair employer, or just a trigger-happy one.
The unemployment rate where you are must be higher than here or you'd give your employee(s) at least a second chance.
If you have, or had, given fair and prior warning of the consequenses of such actions by your employee(s) upon hiring them as to what disciplinary action you'd take in such an eventuality, then fair enough.
If you read one of my posts above, it outlines an instance where the equipment was not faulty, but the fuse was blown nonetheless. I doubt any employee would be foolish enough to repeat my mistake of connecting a power amp that was already switched on to a live mains lead.
For the record, I do not support the notion of using the wrong or a blank fuse even though I know that sound quality is actually improved as a result.
Risking death (not just your own but others) in pursuit of a better sound is just stupid.
Regards,
Steve.
[This message was edited by Steven Toy on TUESDAY 21 October 2003 at 02:22.]
Posted on: 20 October 2003 by Steve Toy
"Due to the number of contributions making references to replacing the case fuses with either uprated or "unrated" items, I'm closing this thread."
Please tell Richard, what were your reasons for re-opening this thread?
The fact that some contributors on here including myself are actually advising against fuse botching perhaps?
I'd just like to know.
Regards,
Steve.
Posted on: 20 October 2003 by herm
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Toy:
Please tell Richard, what were your reasons for re-opening this thread?
The fact that some contributors on here including myself are actually advising against fuse botching perhaps?
Steve, don't be shy. You're well aware the only reason they're running this forum is the chance to read your thoughts and ruminations.
Herman
Posted on: 21 October 2003 by Sean Woods
quote:
Originally posted by Richard Dane:
OK all,
Due to the number of contributions making references to replacing the case fuses with either uprated or "unrated" items, I'm closing this thread.
It only leaves me to remind _everybody_ that the case fuses are carefully rated to comply with CE regulations and are there to protect not only the equipment but also you and others from risk of electrocution or fire under certain fault conditions.
Even if you feel you are willing to bear that risk and risk your family's or your neighbour's lives then at least spare a thought for the poor sap who buys your kit second-hand in 10 or so years time unwittingly taking the same risk because you forgot to replace the case fuse with the correctly rated item..... 
Richard
Only joking Richard, but my last post seems to be missing.
Have you removed it!
Sean

Posted on: 21 October 2003 by Richard Dane
Hmmm,
the thread doesn't seem to have closed as it should. I'll try again...