FRAIM hapiness means using the "Payne" method

Posted by: Geoff P on 18 January 2004

The following recent quote prompts me to detail the benefits of the Payne method:
quote:
Given the arcane nature of getting a rack (any rack it seems) to perform its best, I would:
* Let the dealer do it ONLY IF I had reason to believe he or she was a guru at setting up this particular rack
* Otherwise, I would do it myself to become first-hand familiar with the rack and how it sets up. This way, when reading setup advice, it will make sense.
Just my $.02 -
GregB



Gentlemen

I can declare that Martin Payne's Fraim assembly instructions here:
http://forums.naim-audio.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=67019385&f=48019385&m=8491910386
Are excellent.

I built my Fraim together based on the drawings enclosed with the boxes when purchased. You know how this goes, it's just like instructions from IKEA & MFI. First principle do it up nice and tight or your self-assembly furniture will wobble around, so of course I applied that principle to my Fraim assembly.
All went well and I did do it carefully including levelling properly. I replaced all the naim kit (which I had cleverly managed to keep connected so it had not been turned off) and sat back to listen to my latest accquisition.

It sounded pretty good to me and over a subsequent period of about 2 weeks, did I imagine it, it believe it got even better. It gave the impression that the whole thing was settling down nicely with all those heavy boxes concentrating there weight into the floor.

Then on friday night I read Martin's instructions which basically left me feeling that I had tortured my poor Fraim by tightening everything up so much. So I thought right let's relieve the pain as quickly as possible so off came the kit and the shelf levels and I started again from square one by dis-assembling everything and putting it back together in the correct way. This time I observed the Payne rules on gentle nipping up of the nuts, no heaving on spanners from the home tool kit, instead I used the "wimpy" little pressed steel spanner provided, which basically limits the torque applied by it's very nature. Also I was obsessive about leveling. In fact I do believe the first assembly and subjection to weight had done a little to flatten down the bottom wooden yoke and as luck would have it it came out level first try. I also did the shelf "tinging" thing and did find a good side, or at least convinced myself I did. Of course I went to great lengths to make sure everyting was centered in it's hole and not touching the side and I centered the shelf spikes in their depressions properly.

As I did this I kept muttering to myself "patience, get it right, no way are you going to do this again!!"

Well that was friday. As I sit here listening to it on Sunday night I am thinking WOW!! that was worth it. I
t is like what I thought of as an improvement first time around has been doubled up. I am sure I am hearing a significantly wider frequency range. The music has a tingly feeling about it that just was'nt there before.

OK OK you say, your just patting yourself on the back for your evening's work. No I reply it is genuine.

To all fraim owners out there I apologise if I have planted nagging thoughts and worries in your minds about how your fraim has been put together but I can be smug about it now.
I KNOW mine is put together right not just because I followed Martin's instructions but because it sounds so great.

Moral. The only way to make sure you get maximum value from your Fraim is to put it together yourself so you are convinced it's as good as it can be and you can settle back and enjoy the music again

Just send the wife out to the shops and get down to it lads

GEOFF
Posted on: 18 January 2004 by long-time-dead
Eagerly awaiting the arrival of my Fraim, I have been reading all the postings on the Forum and trying to commit Martin's tips to memory.

Geoff's findings are great to read and I will take every care and attention to assembling the rack (myself) to minimise the paranoia factor which will undoubtedlty set in after a short while.......

I agree with the moral of Geoff's findings but would also like to add moral #2

Moral #2 - Before making a serous financial investment, trust the findings of the Forum as there is strength in numbers and years of experience. Sometimes a new finding is made - this is not wrong and time will tell as there are enough ardent students around to test the new finding and post results.
Posted on: 18 January 2004 by J.N.
Lest any of you think that Geoff is barking of Barking; I can concur with his findings.

Myself, Martin Payne and other Fraim advocates in these parts have spent many a merry evening with Fraim tools in hand (who needs to listen to music when you can play with your Fraim).

If its done up too tight; it seems to slug the boogie factor and send the sound a bit leaden.

Too loose and it comes undone.

Tricky.

The supplied instructions are woefully inadequate, if one is to achieve Fraim's full potential.

I realise that Naim do not wish to choke off potential customers by being too freaky and tweaky; but the option of more detailed instructions should be there.
Posted on: 18 January 2004 by dave simpson
quote:

Sounds like Mana revisited

It is James. Unlike Mana though, overtightening/undertightening Fraim fasteners doesn't result in a "bad" sound--just less than optimal performance.

regards,

dave
Posted on: 20 January 2004 by Geoff P
Dave

I agree. My first construction of my Fraim sounded like a big improvement and I would have been quite happy to continue sitting in front of it without doing anything more if I had'nt read the "payne" instructions.

But once I found I had put it together wrong I had to do something about it.

The good news as we are all advocating here is that I iknew that because I had put it together myself rather than having the dealer do it and never know any better.

Incidentally when I bought my Fraim my dealer gave me no specific advise (not good) but did wish me enjoyment in putting it together since he felt it was a quite theraputic exercise.

I now know what he mean't!

GEOFF
Posted on: 20 January 2004 by Greg Beatty
"Incidentally when I bought my Fraim my dealer gave me no specific advise (not good) but did wish me enjoyment in putting it together since he felt it was a quite theraputic exercise."

But your dealer was honest! I've come across too many that simply must appear to be a guru at everything and will use your install as a, sometimes first, learning experience.

Enjoy Your Fraim!

- GregB

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Posted on: 20 January 2004 by Dave J
So here I am not really knowing if I'm optimised or not. I mean everything sounds fine but I know I'll have to re-assemble to make sure I'm getting the best....bugger!
Posted on: 20 January 2004 by Geoff P
Ah Ha got one! Cool

Sorry
GEOFF