Do you know for some good espresso machine?

Posted by: Lightkeeper on 25 April 2006

Hi,
my wife and I would like to buy some really good little espresso coffee machine.
Can you recommend something?

Thanks,
Oz
Posted on: 25 April 2006 by Beano
Gaggia Classic Coffee is the machine i use, and can wholeheartedly recommend it.

http://www.homewares.co.uk/
Posted on: 25 April 2006 by i am simon 2
Ozren

I can second Beano's recomendation, I have used the same machine for about 5 years and it is excelent.

Mick Parry will be along shortly to add his vote, I understand he also runs a Classic from Gaggia, and if Mick has it there can be no arguing.

Mick

Did you buy a grinder in the end?

Kind regards

Simon
Posted on: 25 April 2006 by joe90
I have a Krups 998.

It really does make an excellent coffee.

Find GOOD BEANS or it's all for nought!!
This cannot be overemphasised!

1 miilion quid machine and off beans is still off beans!

Source first...
Posted on: 25 April 2006 by Beano
Ozren I imported all my coffee making hardware from this company.
http://www.italy-outlet.co.uk/shop.php?cid=2&lang=en&mall=i

Homewares is the UK distributor, they sell reconditioned machines as well as new.

Italy outlet, was called Best of Italy when I purchased my machines, they sometimes have deals on various machines, La pavoni, Saeco, Gaggia and Krupps.

The La Pavoni Europiccola is style over function and best left on the shelf, my late father used one and frankly was a right palaver to make a brew!

Paul
Posted on: 25 April 2006 by RiNo
Gaggia Classic Coffee Smile
Preferable with Mauro De luxe beans Winker

Regards
Barista Rickardo
Posted on: 25 April 2006 by RiNo
quote:
The La Pavoni Europiccola is style over function and best left on the shelf, my late father used one and frankly was a right palaver to make a brew!

My father in-law has the La PAvoni professional, shouldn't make good coffee, but man His IS the best.
Sensemoral: it's not always what you use but how that counts (reminds me of early Naim 16-bit players...)
Paul, not aimed at your late father, I mean the Pavoni gets a bad read in all tests, but my father-in-law doesn't know (or care!)

Barista Rickardo
Posted on: 25 April 2006 by Greggles
Whatever machine you get, make sure you upgrade the mains cable Winker
Posted on: 25 April 2006 by Rockingdoc
ready to be shot down in flames, but for a genuine office machine, ie. one that will sit by my desk and not in a kitchen, I had thought of a "Nespresso" machine. Looks quick, clean and convenient?

Anybody tried one?

I can do all the ritualistic espresso dance thing at home if I want to, but not in my office.
Posted on: 25 April 2006 by Beano
Freshly made espresso Gaggia Classic Coffee style.


Posted on: 26 April 2006 by Lightkeeper
Hi to all,

thanks. I know that Gaggia is very popular. I will try to find one good model in my area.

Oz
Posted on: 26 April 2006 by Mick P
Chaps

Sorry for not coming in earlier but I have spent the last couple of evening taking Mrs Mick out to dinner so I never logged in.

If you have the time read the thread below, you could have a Phd in coffee making if you absorb that little lot.

I drink expresso after dinner every evening and you need to remember 3 facts.

1. Buy good quality beans

2. Use a good machine, I use the Gaggia Classic

3 Use a good quality coffee burrer NOT a grinder.

I was going to buy a coffee bean roaster but they smoke the house out.

Regards

Mick


http://forums.naim-audio.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/58019385/m/4501957606/p/1
Posted on: 26 April 2006 by John K R
Hi Ozren,
I also use a Gaggia Classic, this is a good machine and is quite reliable but relatively expensive. A Gaggia Baby is a machine that uses the same internals, but clad in some kind of plastic body. It does the same job but cheaper.
A grinder is IMO essential. As a matter of fact unless you can get the beans ground at a coffee shop fine enough, you may struggle to find mass market branded coffee of the correct grind consistency. Ignore the “for all coffee machines” labels. Illy is probably ground finest and most suitable.
It is often said the most money should be spent on the grinder. Gaggia MDF is a good base level; probably the best regarded home grinder price for price is the Rancilio Rocky.
BTW Mick
quote:
3 Use a good quality coffee burrer NOT a grinder.
This is a “burr grinder” you are talking about rather than a “blade grinder” I agree that burr is the one to use but both types are grinders.
Ozren, if you are in the UK. Look at Gaggia UK click on shop (box at top of screen) and then machines (red text ) this will show some reconditioned bargains.
hope this helps, John.
Posted on: 27 April 2006 by Alexander
Here's three different styles:

Quality first: Does anyone have a Rancilio Sylvia?
I thought that, apart from their being excellent, they were also a bit cumbersome to use. And not pretty. I'm tempted though.

Design first: On the way home I pass a shop everyday that displays a 'Francis Francis X1'.
Great design, not too pricey at about 300 pounds. The internals have evolved a lot since the first version and I trust it can make a reasonable cup now.

Simplicity first: At the office we have been quite happy with our fully automatic Saeco Vienna de Luxe machine (about 300 pounds worth).
It's deceased now after over 2 years of very hard labour, and it was replaced by a more fancy machine.
Posted on: 27 April 2006 by John K R
Alexander,
the Silvia probably beats the Gaggia because of the boiler size and material ie. (copper rather that aluminium). The reason I chose the Gaggia was price and parts availability, they are well catered for in the UK by Gaggia UK other espresso machines are not easily serviced, in fact good quality espresso machines are not as readily acailable in the UK as in continental Europe. And at the time of purchase the price was quite a bit cheaper (cant remember specifics). If they were similar prices I would go for Silvia over the Classic.

The 'Francis Francis is a good looking machine, in some cool colours, but was slated in some online reviews. If they now have the internals right it may be worth a look.

If I could justify spending the money on a espresso machine the ultimate IMO is the ECM Giotto John.
Posted on: 30 April 2006 by Alexander
I picked 3 products that are about 500 euro.
At 300euro, the Gaggia Classic is a good deal cheaper indeed. No, I can't justify spending over 1000 euro on a coffee machine. In fact, 500 euro already seems slightly indecent to me, so I'd consider the Gaggia for my own home use too.
Posted on: 01 May 2006 by Edo Engel
Brewing proper espresso is all about the right quality bean (and grind) and the right water temperature. If you want your water to maintain the correct temperature, you want your machine to do so as well. That's why I personally fell for Faema E62 based machines (in my case, the humble Vibiemme Domobar). Great machines, although they seem to take ages to heat up...

Cheers,

Edo