Haydn Recommendations

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Originally posted by mjamrob:

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Haydn: Mass in D min "The Nelson": Stahlman, Watts, Brown, Krause: Cond. Willcocks & LSO & Choir of King's College, Cambridge

A fantastic piece of vinyl, it must be available on CD somewhere

The boxed set of Hadyn's 6 Last Masses directed by the same (David Willcocks)is a true gem.
The recording is fantastic - warm spacious and with great depth. The performances are stunning, and the full vitality is captured.
Paukenmesse
Heiligmesse
The Nelson Mass
The Theresa Mass
The Creation Mass
Harmoniemesse
Decca (Argo) 1962-1972

regards,
mat

I have this excellent set too. The Harmoniemesse is my favorite.

However, I see no reference to the greatest of all Haydn works (IMHO of course!): The Creation. Many good versions - Dorati is an excellent choice but there are others.

Dear Colleagues,

did I fail to notice any mention of the Haydn Cello concertos ?

My favourite here is No.1 in C Major, of which there are many famous recordings; Jacqueline du Pré's interpretation is one of my preferences, even though it may not be regareded as "the top" by the "connoisseurs".

Best regards

Urs

re Cello Concertos,
and very fine pieces they are. I think their omission has ben due to feeling that Mr. Underhill is just coming to Haydn, and the many suggestions have been meant as an introduction.

re Harnoncourt,
I've been relistening to my Harnoncourt Paris Symphony set and comparing it to my old Dorati LP's. Really, I can't spot any significant difference in the "stop-start". Try comparing the two in Symphony No 83, which contains numerous pauses. Even playing the CD with a Dorati LP playing at the same time, there is an obvious difference in sound but surprisingly little (to me) in interpretation. To my ears, both are extremely strong recommendations.

Ken

You're right Urs,

The cello concerto is magnificient. I have yet to heat Jacqueline DuPré's version, but Jean-Guihen Queyras' is excellent.

Cello Concerto

Claude

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Originally posted by ClaudeP:
You're right Urs,

The cello concerto is magnificient. I have yet to heat Jacqueline DuPré's version, but Jean-Guihen Queyras' is excellent.



Claude

seconded, this is a wonderful ( and wonderfully sounding album)


SJB

This is the thread that has given me the most pleasure on the Forum for a very long time!

My love of Haydn's music came as a very young schoolboy, and has only deepened. I was never frightened of saying in those days that I liked Haydn more than Mozart, though I have learned to enjoy Mozart as much as Haydn in the intervening years! It is my joy to read so many people finding so much in Haydn's music!

Tomorrow I will add a few more thoughts, if I may be forgiven. I have never found any piece of his music that was not worth gaining a closer aquaitance with, and the only other composer that applies to for me is old Bach!

ATB from George

uem mentions the Cello Concertos. I have a rather fine disc of 1st, 2nd and 4th from Gautier Capucon with the Mahler Chamber Orchestra under Daniel Harding:



which can be had pretty cheaply on the amazon marketplace:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Haydn-Cello-Concertos-Joseph/dp...id=1196462261&sr=1-2


regards, Tam

Todd mentioned the Beaux Art's wonderful recordings of the piano trios, a selection of which I was listening to last night with considerable pleasure. Looking on Amazon, the complete set (9CDs) is available for ~ £25, which makes it what seems to be known in forumish as a "no brainer":



EW

Radio Three is surveying the current recordings of the Theresenmass at this very moment.

ATB from George

Listening to the CD review this morning I found myself on the wavelength of the reviewer [for once!] and the recording by Hickox was chosen on Chandos. Apparently there is a large budget priced slimline multi-CD set from him of the Masses, which now I know about it will jump the line for my next big purchase of CDs, though I ordered a special thing this morening, Klemperer a\nd the BPO in the Fourth and Fifth of Beethoven on Testamant. That company might see me in penuary they way theu issue things I want to listen to!

Certainly the idea of Klemperer working with the BPO in Beethoven is something. Klemperer left Berlin in 1933 having been advised by Nazis that it might be good for his chances of survival, so his next appearance in Berlin in post war times must have been a somewhat emotion charged event , but knowing Klemperer that would only be used as an opportunity to enhance the force and drive of his musical visison. I don't expect the orchestra necessarily enjoyed it.

ATB from George

Haydn
Paris Symphonies
- Austro-Hugarian Haydn Orchestra Adam Fischer no 82-87

88 in G
- BPO, Furtwangler, DG Studio in about 1950
- Adam Fischer as above with the symphonies through to 92 (this is a great and unsung patch!).

London Symphonies (93 to 104)
- Concertgebeouw, Davis, for Philips
- RPO, Beecham, for EMI

Symphony Number 104 in D, The London
- Edwin Fischer Chamber Orchestra. Recorded in 1938 amazing!

Trumpet concerto
- Edvard Ole Antonsen, ECO, Tate, A nice bunch of concertos by Hummel, Tartini, and others, this is also the finest version of the Haydn I have come across.

Oboe Concerto in C Major
Evelyn Rothwell [Lady Barbirolli], Halle orch, Sir John B. This is part of a bouquet of concertos, which are the most wonderful music making. Others represented include Coreli, Pergolesi, Cimarosa, and Marcello. The highlights are the Marcello (which I have in Bach's arrangement played by Fischer in the Adagio alone]. These were re-released by Dutton.

Three Violin Concertos
- Standage, Pinnock

Three PIano Concertos
- Leif Ove Andsnes

Cello Concertos in D and C
- Truls Mork, Norwegian Chamber Orchestra, Iona Brown
- In D: Fournier, Lucerne strings under Baumgartner
- In C: Milos Sadlo, Prague Chamber Orchestra, Alois Klima

Piano sonatas
- John McCabe, for Decca

String quartets
- Sis quartets opus 33, Six, opus 71/74, Six opus 76, Two opus 77, and Last Seven Words From The Cross: Tatrai Quartet. on Hungaraton
- 27 Quartets (plus two by Hoffstetter!), including all the really big late works: - Pro Arte Quartet HMV 1930s Studio.
- Two quartets opus 77 and two fragments opus 103: Mosaiques Quartet.

Seasons
- Colin Davis

Creation, in English
- BBC forces.
- Hogwood

Masses
- Almost complete set with Cambridge forces under George Guest on Decca. Superb!


This is not quite the exptent of my recordings of Haydn. They represent what has come and not gone. I think that in each case the performances make for a firm recommendation.

I hope this may help a little, though trying to describe the qualities of each one would take pages! If anyone is curious about any individual performance, please ask, and I will try to describe it a little.

ATB from George

Out of interest, has anyone here heard Rattle's recent disc of symphonies 88-92 with the BPO?

regards, Tam

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Originally posted by Earwicker:
Todd mentioned the Beaux Art's wonderful recordings of the piano trios, a selection of which I was listening to last night with considerable pleasure. Looking on Amazon, the complete set (9CDs) is available for ~ £25, which makes it what seems to be known in forumish as a "no brainer":



EW

I second Todd and EW on this one - this is the first version of the trios I've heard, and never felt the need to buy another interpretation. And it sounds great, too!

George: Thank you, I have yet to hear most of the suggestions you're making.

Tam: I didn't know that Rattle had been recording the 88-92. I'm also anxiously waiting for someone's feedback now! In the meantime, I added it to my Xmas gift list.

Claude

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Originally posted by ClaudeP:

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Originally posted by Earwicker:
Todd mentioned the Beaux Art's wonderful recordings of the piano trios, a selection of which I was listening to last night with considerable pleasure. Looking on Amazon, the complete set (9CDs) is available for ~ £25, which makes it what seems to be known in forumish as a "no brainer":

EW

I second Todd and EW on this one - this is the first version of the trios I've heard, and never felt the need to buy another interpretation. And it sounds great, too!
Claude

Bad news i'm afraid, amazon price is now £45.98
That's Christmas for you! ; )
I bet it'll be half the price in January!

nymph

Check out the Amazon Market Place price - £25.06 new from a UK seller - sorry, should have been clearer. That's a bargain, I might have it myself if you don't...!

Don't worry Earwicker, i'm in no hurry to buy at this moment in time and i've lot of lovely music to open my ears; such as this cheap as chips Naxos CD with Haydn Symph number 82 "The Bear" (not called Mohammed i hasten to add). Symph number 96 "The Miracle" with a delightful Menuetto: Allegretto melody (track 7) and the fantastic Symph number 100 "The Military" (the volume knob will get turned up on track 10) Allegretto (track 10), it's a tune that almost everyone will find familier and uplifting.

Amazon refer to this as a [Box Set] but ignore this, it's only one thumping good cd currently available at only £4.99

Famous Symphonies Vol. 1
Recorded at the Concert Hall of the Slovak Philarmonic in March 1988
Conducted by Barry Wordsworth
NAXOS [DDD] @ 1991

kind regards ~
nymph

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Originally posted by naim_nymph:
Symph number 82 "The Bear" (not called Mohammed i hasten to add).

Yes, that wouldn't have done much for his career prospects would it? It's hard to compose after being stoned to death.

There is also a superb selection of late symphonies on a London Mozart Players / Jane Glover 2-CD set on Sanctuary CD RSB 203. I had all but forgotten that I owned this until this thread reminded me. Well worth another hearing....and another.
Ken

Dear All,

Thx for such a wonderful response. I popped into a few shops at the weekend and found - nothing!

Now waiting for the postman!

M