CDS3 or P9

I feel the decision should tilt over to the format that you have more software.

Imho it should all depend on how much CD's or LP's you've got, or if the music you like is still (new & s.h) available on vinyl.

regards,
Alco

[This message was edited by Alco on SUNDAY 13 July 2003 at 11:16.]

Mind you paul if I had taken that move/advise I wouldn't own an LP12 and increased my LPs 10 fold last year!

Thank you all!

I have more than 1000 CDs and less than 20 new and s/h LPs. I bought the LPs 18 months ago when I purchased some Technics DJ T/T /400UKP/.

Then I compared it with my 5 series system.

I know that's not serious.

What's my point of view? I am telling myself: do I miss something without vinyl? Without a very good turntable.

I had home demo with a CDS3. First time with 282/SC2/250mk2/Mezzo and second with 252 when it arrived.

I'm convinced in the strengths of CDS3. I had the feeling it sounds like a very good T/T.

I chose to go first to 252. I think it made the system sound a little bit better than CDS3. 252 helped the 250 to handle the hungry Mezzo better /there is some clipping on 11 o'clock/. In my opinion with a 300 /on order/ CDS3 will show better what it can do.

I never did a demo with a good T/T and can't compare both sources.

Once again: Am I missing something without a P9/LP12.

regards

Emil

Tom

Thanks for the "A Night at Roxbury" style answer.

It means I have to go for a CDS3 .

You are definitely not working for Rega.

After five more advices like that you must have a CDS3 free.

Emil

What a crying shame it would be to go on the advise of one misguided fool!

Emil,
the right questions to ask are:

Do you really want to purchase more vinyl in the near future?

Is there s/h vinyls readily available near where you live?

Have you checked (on the net or elswhere) if the kind of music you like is still issued on new vinyl?

If you don't want to jump into the vinyl wagon, with your current CD/LP ratio at 1000:20, the choice would be quite obvious.


my 2 cents
JM

Emil wrote: "Once again: Am I missing something without a P9/LP12."

Yes and yes again. Digital is gonzo from my system. As long as you listen to music pre early 80s there is alot of vinyl available. If you have the time buy up collections (really cheap) and merge them, sell off the balance and you will probably have lots of change in your pocket. I have done this and discovered sooooo much music. If music is the issue expore vinyl and understand the issues come with it (storage, cleaning, lack of new product, etc.).

Good CD players are enjoyable but lack the consistency of triggering the connection that gets me lost in the performance. Vinyl makes that connection much easier for me and over a much broader range of music.

My 2 cents.

John

Just wanted to add that if you buy indie, jazz, soul, funk, reggae, electronica, etc... you shouldn't have any trouble finding new releases on vinyl. In fact, when it comes it hip hop (and electronica, I am sure), there is way more available on vinyl.

Also, in my limited experience, classical music collectors take obsessive care of their records, and handfuls of these mint LPs can be purchased for loose change.

Maybe it's a Brighton thing (with its club/DJ culture), but once you get away from the high street stores, vinyl still rules the roost.

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Is there s/h vinyls readily available near where you live?

Have you checked (on the net or elswhere) if the kind of music you like is still issued on new vinyl?

If you don't want to jump into the vinyl wagon, with your current CD/LP ratio at 1000:20, the choice would be quite obvious.

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I can only agree.

Imho the music should decide if you take the digital of analog route.
Don't get me wrong, I love TT's and vinyl, and personally I wouldn't mind if the CD/Player never got invented (damn, those Dutch fella's in 1983 ) but.... What if 95% of the music I like is only available on CD ?!

Sure, I'd also like a P9 or an LP12 and say:"boy, this sounds absolutely amazing" Ok, in most cases I wouldn't be able to listen to the music I love most, but hey, it's the sound that counts,right ?! (...not)

I also have way more CD's than LP's (about 680/15) and I'm also considering going analog again, but the fact that I'm forced to buy/listen to music that I probably wouldn't have bought on CD, kinda bothers me...

I mean, I just discovered the simply vinyl site, where you can order LP's online.

I looked around and checked out the 'pop/rock' department. They have about 130 titles on offer.
I saw 5 album's I'd order. (from which I already have 3 on CD)
Kinda sad, don't ya think.

regards,
Alco

I dunno if they'll help with what you are after, but I couldn't carry away all the things I want from any of these online vinyl seller. IIRC, didn't someonw post a list of online vinyl retailers?

www.boomkat.com
www.disque.co.uk
www.warpmart.com

Last night a man whom I met recently invited me to present his new sonus faber granieri.

System was CDX/XPS/Primare 201/Quad mono blocks/Nordost cable.

Quad is some very old tube amp. Primare is an old tube preamp, too.

For my surprise the man had also LP12/Walhala/Ittok/Van den Hul Grasshoppers.

Of course I did the test. Everything with the T/T was natural, fine and pleasant. I liked that very much!

There wasn't a CDS3, but I'll hope to arrange a test next week.

The big surprise for me was the sound that tubes gave to the system. Well, no great dynamic, no accurate bass, but I liked that, too!

Even the CDX/XPS sounded interestingly with the tubes.

Actually I'm thinking now what's better: tubes or transistors? And what do I prefer more?

Maybe this is out of question for me: the hungry Mezzos need powerful amps, which is not the case with the tubes.

I'll inform you, if I do the CDS3 vs. LP12 test.

Emil