You think our speed cameras are sneaky?

But it has a hidden flaw! If you do more than 150mph you're completely safe. Was it the italians who have cameras hidden in wheely bins?

I think that was the Dutch.

Tony

I read that to use this technology would require a change in the law, which will come about when the scamera partnerships (joke) realise how much money will be made.

Is it true that GB stuffed 22m of the 112m raised from speeding fines in his arse pocket? Do they still call them safety cameras?

Oh my gawd, not another speed camera thread

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Do they still call them safety cameras?

They've gone back to calling them speed cameras in Staffs having obviously realised they were taking the piss. The Talivans still call themselves safety cameras though.

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Oh what fun could be had upon finding a speed camera in a wheely bin!

Well, that's where you normally put the rubbish i guess

Steve,
they do work 4% of the time

Might I be so bold as to enquire what it is that the British find so offensive about speed cameras? We do have them here and nobody likes them but a much higher level of hatred comes across about British speed cameras.

Sure, it's robot policing but then speeding is a strict liability offence in most places.

Deane,

Think in terms of effectiveness in improving safety versus civil liberties.

Think in terms also of their purpose being to raise revenue or to lower the speed of traffic.

Think finally of rigid speed enforcement teaching people to drive like morons or to drive responsibly

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Originally posted by Deane F:
Might I be so bold as to enquire what it is that the British find so offensive about speed cameras? We do have them here and nobody likes them but a much higher level of hatred comes across about British speed cameras.

See the 5th reply to find your answer.

don't bother Steve, the Kiwi attitude to driving is the same as the Australian - as long as you're driving AT the speed limit you're perfectly safe.

One can but presume that GB has an awfully large arse pocket.

Breaking the law is not a lottery. Nor is being caught breaking the law. If their real purpose was raising funds by the back door (or back pocket) they would make a much better job of it. By putting them round blind corners and beyond humps in the road. So you had no chance in hell of slowing for the camera if you were over the speed limit.

Why do you presume to ignore one law and demand strict adherence to all the others? Are you a rapist, bank robber, drug dealer or genocidal maniac? Probably not. Then why do you allow yourself the luxury of moaning about being caught on camera while breaking the law? It is illogical.

Nime, maybe you should stop your inane ranting and actually read what has been written. Nobody is complaining about being caught on camera, people are complaining about the cameras themselves. What I think most people would like to see is that the speed limits are treated as they were originally intended when first introduced, ie advisory. Further in order to reduce accidents that police should be tackling bad and dangerous driving and not relying on policing by arbitrary numbers.

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Originally posted by John Sheridan:
don't bother Steve, the Kiwi attitude to driving is the same as the Australian - as long as you're driving AT the speed limit you're perfectly safe.

Safe from what? A speeding ticket?

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By putting them round blind corners and beyond humps in the road. So you had no chance in hell of slowing for the camera if you were over the speed limit.

Nime, you're clueless as ever in your anti-speeding zeal. The real reasons why cameras are NOT placed in the places you mention above is because drivers actually slow down for such hazards. From a revenue-raising POV it's far better to put them on the long safe straight stretch with a long lazer beam that gets you before you've even seen the device.

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Safe from what? A speeding ticket?

Quite. And not much else.

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Originally posted by Deane F:
Might I be so bold as to enquire what it is that the British find so offensive about speed cameras? We do have them here and nobody likes them but a much higher level of hatred comes across about British speed cameras.

Sure, it's robot policing but then speeding is a strict liability offence in most places.

we find them offensive for a number of reasons

they are usually on roads where they will attract the most revenue rather than for safety, they should be outside schools, triggered to go off at 15mph and in built up areas, not on urban clearways nd motorways.

the standard of driving a lane control in this country is abyssmal, if they tackled that there would be less frustration and less innapropriate speeding

In other civilised countrys you receive a fgine for speeding, they don't take your licence away, on some stretches of road in the Uk you can lose your licence in a couple of miles, at 35mph 5mph above limit.

It was reported in the local press recently that North Yorkshire Police had re-affirmed their policy of not using static cameras, they stated that no road sections in the county met the criteria for their use.

Interesting given the profusion elsewhere. Are some forces reading these rules differently?

Bruce

"Inane ranting"? Just because you don't agree with me about your selfish and dangerous behaviour?

I've been ranting about selfish speeding for decades. By driving at the speed limit I am usually the slowest vehicle on the road whether in town or in the country. And it makes me bløødy angry!

It's not even that you want to go at any speed you choose. You want to read maps or papers, use the mobile phone, turn to talk to the kids in the back, turn your head to look at your passenger every few seconds, adjust your CD player, adjust your GPS, light a cigarette, drop a cigarette in your lap... etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.

I was nearly wiped off the road by a women driving down the outside of a traffic queue at 20kph speed over the clearly displayed limit only last week. She was pressing her handsfree mobile phone to her head and totally oblivious to what was happening around her in her damned people carrier.

When she was finally baulked at the lights she simply changed lane! My attentive driving and proper use of mirrors allowed me to go on with my inane ranting a little longer! And my wife to go on pointing out the one in four using mobile phones while driving at any speed they like.

One in ten cannot even stay on their side of the road on local corners! We have had five cars nose down in the roadside ditch within a mile of our home in the last year! Three more were on their roofs! We had three nose down in the ditch last week alone!

The scalextric car drivers are totally losing it! But they are completely safe behind their air bags and seatbelts. They climb out and call their £60 a year rescue service on the same mobile they were no doubt using when they crashed. Then it's off to the garage to be mended by their insurance company and then they're back on the road without having learnt a damn thing.

You want more "inane ranting"?

Nime

As I read it your are ranting at bad driving, not speed cameras per se.

Bruce

This debate (if one can call it that) will be history in a few years when all new cars (and bikes) will have electronically and remotely controlled maximum speed determined by the prevailing speed limit on whetever road you are on.

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Originally posted by Bruce Woodhouse:
Nime

As I read it your are ranting at bad driving, not speed cameras per se.

Bruce

No I'm ranting about the adults bawling like babies because the "powers that be" have finally found a way to make bad driver's illegal and dangerous behaviour hurt the actual culprit. (if only slightly) Intead of killing somebody's child, mum or grandad by the tens of thousands, year after year.

Morons like these are the reason for traffic humps and cameras in the first place. Without selfish behaviour there would be no need for traffic calming at all. So we all pay in discomfort and delay for those who who actively choose to break the law. (again and again and again)

Those who moan about cameras which don't hurt anyone obeying the law are really ranting! Tell it to the ambulance service, fire brigade and patrol police. See what sort of reception your lunacy gets from them.

And that is my last word on this subject.

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Originally posted by Nime:
And that is my last word on this subject.

Oh good, as that means we won't have to listen to more of your ill-informed nonsense.

Your previous posts actually make the point about why speed cameras aren't a great idea. Now that there are the primary traffic enforcement there are fewer traffic police officers around to catch bad & dangerous drivers.