lp 12 with sme 4?
Posted by: o.j. on 13 February 2004
good idea to put a sme4 on a lp 12 or better to go for another arm.? anybody has experiences ?
O.J.
Posted on: 13 February 2004 by long-time-dead
Ekos or Aro
That's the only two I'd consider......
Posted on: 13 February 2004 by bjorne
It's said not to be a happy match but I'm not sure why. Other options other than Aro and Linn might be Morch who has a good reputaion, probably difficult to find used ones though. Some people get great results with Rega RB300 too.
Posted on: 14 February 2004 by syd
I was told by a dealer that the newer SME arms were just too heavy for the LP12 suspension but I don't know if this is true or not. I've certainly never seen an LP12 with modern SMEs fitted.
Yours in Music
Syd
Posted on: 14 February 2004 by Basil
SME V arm weighs in at 720.0g!!!
SMEPosted on: 14 February 2004 by quickie
The weight is not a problem.Arms such as the Mission Mechanic,Zeta,Kuzma Stogi are all heavier than an Ittok/Ekos(The Stogi is over 800g)....and work fine.
Paul
Posted on: 14 February 2004 by o.j.
quote:
Originally posted by quickie:
The weight is not a problem.Arms such as the Mission Mechanic,Zeta,Kuzma Stogi are all heavier than an Ittok/Ekos(The Stogi is over 800g)....and work fine.
Paul
As i understand the weight will not be a problem but what about the sound.
of course i would go for aro or ekos (having no arm) but i own this sme 4.
O.J.
Posted on: 15 February 2004 by bjorne
O.J.
As SME get used on other decks similar to the LP12 I see no reason why it shouldn't be ok on the Linn. I suppose the reason you don't see many/any? Lp12/sme is that Linn build their own arms and then there's the Aro. I wrote before that the match is said not to be a happy one, maybe this is in comparison to Ekos/Aro. It is a fine tonearm. Maybe someone on the forum knows more.
Posted on: 15 February 2004 by Goldstar
Been there, it's not just the weight, the whole thing (lp12 + sme arm) sounds ponderous in the extreme.
Perhaps it would be better to sell the SME and buy and fit an EKOS arm. They were literaly made for each other.
Cheers Robert
Posted on: 15 February 2004 by Goldstar
Further thoughts...
When you consider how sensitive the whole turntable is, even the choice of power supply for the motor changes the sound, then there is the support...etc.
So bunging an SME arm on just because you happen to have one is leaving a lot to chance.
Cheers Robert
Posted on: 15 February 2004 by Basil
Ekos or ARO?
The choice is yours.
I've had an ARO for six years now and have yet to experience a single problem with it.
Posted on: 15 February 2004 by o.j.
quote:
Originally posted by Goldstar:
Been there, it's not just the weight, the whole thing (lp12 + sme arm) sounds ponderous in the extreme.
Perhaps it would be better to sell the SME and buy and fit an EKOS arm. They were literaly made for each other.Hy Goldstar! what is ponderous in deutsch? 
o.J.
Cheers Robert
Posted on: 16 February 2004 by Jason Gould
o.j
If you fit an SME 4 OR 5 to an LP12 which has corner bracing you will need to remove some of this to allow the right angled arm cable termination point to pass,other wise it will touch and "short" against the plinth.
A section of the brace can be removed with a coping saw.
Regards
Jason Gould
Naim UK sales.
Posted on: 16 February 2004 by Basil
quote:
A section of the brace can be removed with a coping saw.
I heard a rumour that the corner braces were fitted to stop people putting SME arms onto LP12's in the first place.
Posted on: 16 February 2004 by quickie
"I heard a rumour that the corner braces were fitted to stop people putting SME arms onto LP12's in the first place"
Nah,it was the RB300
Posted on: 16 February 2004 by Goldstar
Hi o.j.
I think it is SCHWERMUTIG, but then I have been out here so long, I'm forgetting the English!
The Beer is good though.
Cheers Robert
Posted on: 16 February 2004 by Markus S
Actually, ponderous is best translated as schwerfällig. Schwermütig means sad, depressed.
Posted on: 16 February 2004 by o.j.
quote:
Originally posted by Goldstar:
Hi o.j.
I think it is SCHWERMUTIG, but then I have been out here so long, I'm forgetting the English!
The Beer is good though.
Cheers Robert
Hy robert!
i understand schwermütig and as Markus said schwerfällig and sad or depressive.Good idea then to go for another Beer and leave the sme4
in the box,because i try to use my stereosystem to get away my
Depressions
o.J.
