Turkey

Yes this is exactly the right sort of price.

As a comparison a chicken from tescos can cost £2.80 and an organic freerange of smaller weight will cost £11 +

If it makes you feel better the turkey will not have been fed 96% fat in order to get it big quick, neither will it be full of antibiotics to counter the effects of the crowding, false lighting and dangerous food.

Thanks Garyi. If it is the right price for the right thing, then I am happy. It just seemed a lot to me. We rarely have meat in the house (I don't eat it) but when we do, etc etc, but I hadn't realsied what it cost.
I know many struggle with the cost of safe food, but the health of my family is priceless, but we probably haven't spent more than £150 on animal meat this year even with this turkey.
One day I will grow my own vegatables and maybe keep some chickens. I might even try some then for the first time in 19 years.
It shouldn't have to be like this. Think of those poor souls that are destined for Iceland. "Because mothers are heroes" they claim. That really makes me angry; how dare they say that!

In his recent "Food Heroes" programme Rick Stein thought a supermarket battery turkey tasted better than a free range.

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Originally posted by Nigel Cavendish:
In his recent "Food Heroes" programme Rick Stein thought a supermarket battery turkey tasted better than a free range.

That's because (edited quote)

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the (supermarket) turkey will have been fed 96% fat in order to get it big quick,

And humans equate fat=good.

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Originally posted by Rasher:
I know many struggle with the cost of safe food, but the health of my family is priceless, but we probably haven't spent more than £150 on animal meat this year even with this turkey.

Why bother with any animal meat? It's much cheaper to eat high quality vegetarian/vegan than have any high quality meat.



Stephen

"In his recent "Food Heroes" programme Rick Stein thought a supermarket battery turkey tasted better than a free range."

Yes, but the other dozen people in his taste test unanimously prefered the organic turkey.

I'm not sure best tasting = good for you anyway does it?

Coca Cola or beer tastes better than milk IMHO but I suspect milk is better for me?

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Originally posted by Paul Hutchings:

Coca Cola or beer tastes better than milk IMHO but I suspect milk is better for me?

Probably 50:50.



Stephen

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Originally posted by Stephen Bennett:
Why bother with any animal meat?



Stephen

You need to see Madagascar, Stephen. Alex the Lion has the answer

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Originally posted by Hammerhead:

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Originally posted by Stephen Bennett:
Why bother with any animal meat?



Stephen

You need to see Madagascar, Stephen. Alex the Lion has the answer

I understand why cats need meat. Mine get organic.



Stephen

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Originally posted by Stephen Bennett:Why bother with any animal meat?



Stephen

Doctor prescribes red meat. News item here

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Originally posted by Paul Hutchings

Coca Cola or beer tastes better than milk IMHO but I suspect milk is better for me?

Please don't mention Coca Cola in the same breath as food. If you want to talk dirty find another thread.

Next time you're standing behind a clinically obese person at the checkout count the bottles of liquid diarrhoea on the belt and weep for mankind.

Coca Cola is the liquid version of the tobacco industry. They keep taking the money while the human race suffers the torment of rotting teeth and life-threatening obesity.

“£47 bloody 50” is about the going rate for such a beast, but yes it is expensive. All meat coming from well looked after, well fed and cared for livestock is. That is what it costs, and what we have to pay if we feel we have to consider the welfare of the animal to be eaten, and I hope most people will at least consider this.

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Why bother with any animal meat?

I try to keep my meat intake low but I like a steak, or roast lamb etc. and see nothing wrong with eating animals.
If God didn’t intend us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?
John.

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Originally posted by Stephen Bennett:

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Originally posted by Rasher:
I know many struggle with the cost of safe food, but the health of my family is priceless, but we probably haven't spent more than £150 on animal meat this year even with this turkey.

Why bother with any animal meat? It's much cheaper to eat high quality vegetarian/vegan than have any high quality meat.



Stephen

I don't, but I am no dictator and my wife and children can make their own choices.

8 seater free range goose at waitrose £82.00 !!!! fuck that!

Yes goose is bloody expensive.

It probably best at this time of year to know someone on the shoots or what ever it does not make sense really to spend £82 on a goose, none the least of which is that goose is not particularly nice haha.

I am having lamb, I am not fussed by Turkey at all, I have no idea where the tradition came from but no doubt it would have been pre war where such things as turkey and chicken were great rarities and something to look forward too. However nower days it every where, its cheap, its poorly reared and its tasteless.

BTW If your turkey is lovely and moist this christmas its probably because it was fed fat which gets into the muscle and helps baste in the cooking, a proper organic turkey will not be moist it will be dry just as you remember them all them years ago before Tescos and intensive farming.

Food for thought.

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8 seater free range goose at waitrose £82.00 !!!! fuck that!

Costs a wing and a leg

Any tips on cooking it Garyi?

garyi

What are your feeling on putting the bird in for a soak in a brine solution?

I have tried it, don't remember the exact quantities without looking it up but a couple of gallons of cold water, a couple of cups of kosher salt, a couple of halved leamons, a few cloves of crushed garlic, a coarsly chopped onion, some rosemary, tyme and black-pepper if memory serves. Soaked about 24 hours, then rince very very will with fresh cold water.

When prepping and stuffing, no salt was added - go figure.

Turned out very nice in my opinion, and no salty taste - about perfect seasoning I feel - although I would not bet that the salt content would be low...

regards,

Michael

I eat meat occationally.
But, i feel that humans were not designed to eat veggies and nuts.
Look, a lions intestines are much much much longer than humans. Why, it takes much more time to digest meat than veggies.

Also, we don't have canines (thought we call them that, they are not)

Jag