New Pope. No reform here then.....
Posted by: Rasher on 19 April 2005
It looks as if any possibility of the RC Church being updated to relate to the world has just gone up the chimney.
I would suggest that will increase the gulf between the world's religions and increase the likelihood of further world conflict. It worsens the Aids situation where JPII failed, he is outspoken in his anti-"women in the Church" view. No cleaning up of the skeletons. This is total disaster.
Posted on: 19 April 2005 by garyi
What did you expect it religion ffs
Posted on: 19 April 2005 by bigmick
Yes, the Holy Spirit seemed to have let the cardinals down badly here.
Ratzinger seems to embody all the negative aspects of JP without any of the positive human traits. A horrid uncompromising conservative who seems unlikely to address any of the manifold problems in today's Catholic Church. The only silver lining is that he's about a thousand years old, so hopefully he's just a stopgap and the Catholic Church will be here again in a few years time welcoming in someone genuinely progressive.
Posted on: 19 April 2005 by Steve G
I've done some reading on the new chap and it's not looking good. Ultra right wing, ex-nazi youth etc, etc - he makes Mike Parry look like a liberal!
Posted on: 19 April 2005 by Nime
quote:
Originally posted by Steve G: Ultra right wing, ex-nazi youth etc, etc - he makes Mike Parry look like a liberal!
Surely not?
Posted on: 19 April 2005 by Mick P
Chaps
Ratzinger will live for say 7 or 8 years and his successor will probably be more liberal and everyone will then be happy.
7or8 years is a relatively small amount of time in the greater scheme, so it is no big deal.
The new Liberal Pope will probably allow condoms and then at least no one can blame the Church when all and sundry still continue to infect themselves with AIDS.
The only way to stop AIDs is to dose the water supply with bromide.
Regards
Mick
Posted on: 19 April 2005 by Steve G
I now wish to withdraw my comment about the new pope being more right wing than Mr. Parry.
Posted on: 19 April 2005 by JamieWednesday
A German Pope.
There's one for the guest list at your stag weekend...
Still, at least he'll get the trains to run on time.
Posted on: 19 April 2005 by cunningplan
quote:
The only way to stop AIDs is to dose the water supply with bromide.
Regards
Mick
Why do you do it Mick?, it's a simple enough question. Perhaps you have some masochistic tendencies to have abuse hurled at you.
Regards
Clive
Posted on: 19 April 2005 by Mick P
Clive
"The only way to stop AIDs is to dose the water supply with bromide."
You have to admit it would work better than dishing out condoms that none of them will use.
Regards
Mick
Posted on: 19 April 2005 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
How can you all expect reforms from an organisation that never changed it's internal laws for 2000 years and did try to spread those laws in the world killing people?
Posted on: 19 April 2005 by Berlin Fritz
quote:
Originally posted by Mick Parry:
Clive
"The only way to stop AIDs is to dose the water supply with bromide."
You have to admit it would work better than dishing out condoms that none of them will use.
Regards
Mick
Yes Michael, Good Cocktail party chat with Mr Gates & his chums, I expect those British & American prisoners raped and infected in UK & US Jails thought the same when they tried to sue their respective Governments after release, or was it the later infection of their wives and partners that really could blow the lights out in tinsel toon ?
Fritz Von Whisky is far more effective
Posted on: 19 April 2005 by long-time-dead
quote:
Originally posted by Mick Parry:
"The only way to stop AIDs is to dose the water supply with bromide"
Bromine PoisoningPosted on: 19 April 2005 by pe-zulu
quote:
Originally posted by JamieWednesday:
A German Pope.
I clearly can say to you:
Though Luther was german too,
we surely will find no hope
in this mumified german pope.
Posted on: 19 April 2005 by 7V
quote:
Originally posted by Mick Parry:
Ratzinger will live for say 7 or 8 years and his successor will probably be more liberal and everyone will then be happy.
Ratzinger doesn't look all that well to me. I think that 7 or 8 years is overstated. The cardinals have appointed the oldest Pope (at time of appointment) for over 100 years. If he lives as long as 7 or 8 years they'll be furious.
A reforming Pope now would be seen as a slap in the face for John Paul 2, his memory and his supporters. After 3 or 4 years of Benedictine 16 there'll be no problem.
The Catholic Church doesn't play the short game.
Regards
Steve M
Posted on: 19 April 2005 by BigH47
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The Catholic Church doesn't play the short game
As we speak they are preparing for entry into the 19th Century!
Howard
Posted on: 19 April 2005 by Edo Engel
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The cardinals have appointed the oldest Pope (at time of appointment) for over 100 years. If he lives as long as 7 or 8 years they'll be furious.
They have also appointed somebody of high profile: Ratzinger is a reputed theological scholar and has never hesitated to speak out. If their objective were an appointment without consequences they would not have picked Ratzinger.
Cheers,
Edo
Posted on: 20 April 2005 by Berlin Fritz
Apparently he won on penalties !
Posted on: 20 April 2005 by Matthew T
Ironically the only establishments that seem to have any hope of surviving for 2000 years are the ones that don't change to reflect to mood of the day, year, century...
Posted on: 20 April 2005 by Nick_S
I can understand an honest exchange of views on this topic, but I don't get why the moderator(s) permit such obvious trolling as above --- how does this help promote NAIM products?
Nick
Posted on: 20 April 2005 by Berlin Fritz
Which bit do you refer to, I trust I haven't personally offended your sensibilities, If I have then I aplogise most profoundly ?
Fritz Von Beggin yer Umble John
Posted on: 20 April 2005 by Nick_S
(Personal comments written in haste now removed...)
Posted on: 20 April 2005 by Berlin Fritz
OK Mate, slightly ironic considering he was number one on the 'Outrage' list when it came to the non respect chanting at Celtic ?
Fritz Von These Conservatives eh ! they don't know if they're coming or going half of the time, innit
Posted on: 20 April 2005 by JonR
quote:
Originally posted by 7V:
Ratzinger doesn't look all that well to me. I think that 7 or 8 years is overstated. The cardinals have appointed the oldest Pope (at time of appointment) for over 100 years. If he lives as long as 7 or 8 years they'll be furious.
Do you think 7-8 years is enough time for the Vatican to save up the money to buy new ballot papers?
Posted on: 20 April 2005 by Mick P
Nic
I would suggest your last posting is the best example of trolling here.
What I said is perfectly true.
The new Pope will continue the JP2 line but he is unlikely to go beyond a decade.
The chances are by then, the Cardinals will elect a more "Liberal" Pope.
The reality of life is that the Popes preachings on condoms, have hardly any effect on Aids at all. If someone wants sex, they will use or not use condoms as they see fit and the Pope is unlikely to have any influence on that at all.
Regards
Mick
Posted on: 20 April 2005 by JonR
I think the problem with Mick's posts is that whenever the discussion is about the Pope tha only intellectual leap Mick is capable of making is:- Pope--> Catholicism --> Condoms --> Sex
