Great weekend of new music

Posted by: greeny on 13 October 2003

Just a quick note to encourage anyone to buy any of the albums below.
When I buy a batch of music I tend not to listen to it all at once but feed in 2 or 3 albums a week, sometimes at weekend I do a couple more etc. Anyway I bought a batch of 20 odd a couple of weeks ago, and as usual some have proved more successful thank others, the weekend before last I listened to Bell X1 - Music in Mouth and Ed Harcourt - Maplewood for the first time and was quite disapointed (though Bell X1 has grown a bit since). However this weekends efforts have all been a huge success leaving me with that happy, can't wait to get home and get the hiFi back on, feeling.

Here are the albums responsible.

Elbow - Cast of Thousands.
This has been talked about elsewhere, but I've listened to this 4 or 5 times through the weekend and it's just brilliant. I have their 1st album and although it's good it just didn't scream Play Me in the same way this does. Tracks 5 and 6 are two of the best of the year. The album could do with finishing 2 tracks earlier, the last 2 tracks being relatively weak, but overall a huge success.

Calexico - Hot Rail
Feast of Wire has been just about my favourite album of the year (elbow may now be challenging that), this is their 2000 effort and it's nearly as good. Similar to Feast of Wire with Mexican tinged acoustic and brass, spaghetti western-esque in feel. Not quite as varied perhaps, but anyone with a likeing for Feast of Wire should definately give this a go.

Solomon Burke - Don't Give up on Me.
This was released last year, won a grammy and was Mojo Album of the year. I don't know any of Soloman work, but this is a fabulous album. It's made by his voice, everthing a Soul singer should be with such feel and character (maybe not as powerful as some I guess). But I also love the arrangements and songs which I thing work beautifully.

Supper Furry Animals - Phantom Power
OK so I'm a Furry's fan, and their latest effort has done nothing to change that. Maybe not as quirky (or proggy) as Rings around the world and ultimately not quite as good as that (my favourite Furry's album). But it's still packed with great tunes, interesting arrangements and plenty of ideas.



Makes it all worthwhile when you hear some great albums for the first time!!!
Posted on: 13 October 2003 by BigH47
Is the Elbow single representative of the album? Unfortunately the single sends me to sleep it so boring.
I probably won't have to buy it as No 1 son will almost certainly will.
Loved Feast of Wire so may try Hot Rail.

Howard
Posted on: 15 October 2003 by greeny
Unfortunately Howard I don't think I've heard the single, but Unless it's one of the last two tracks (which I think are quite weak) then if it does nothing for you I wouldn't bother with the album.

Although I can't really see any of the tracks being particularly successful singles, and heard between up-beat pop may certainly come across as less exciting. But as an album it works perfectly.


No One else got any comments whatsoever, obviously not obscure enough for the majority. It's got to be said the amount of posting on the music forum is getting an embarrassment. Just 4 posts active today and none of them new.

I do try to make an effort from time to time, but clearly must not be tuned into the majority interests as I seldom get much of a response.
Posted on: 19 October 2003 by Mike Hughes
Well now. I have all of these bar Elbow who are local and just strike me as a little bit lacking in light and shade. Have to totally agree on the Furries. If you haven't got Rings Around The World then you're really missing out on great songs with great production.

Have to disagree on Solomon Burke. He's one of my all time heroes and I finally saw him live in February this year the Academy in Manchester. Don't Give Up On Me is a good album but his voice is compressed to hell. His greatest hits (especially the double CD - Home In My Heart) will give you a much better idea and Soul Alive (a double live) is also good but the only one that really captures the voice is The Bell Sessions. Some bad songs but worth it just for That Lucky Old Sun and a gospel version of The Mighty Quinn. When you hear the vocals on that then any idea of his voice lacking power will be banished forever.

Incidentally, simply the best live act I have ever seen and the voice has improved since the live album, which is now 20 years old.

Happy listening.
Posted on: 19 October 2003 by Minky
Greeny,

Don't be discouraged by the lack of response. As you so rightly point out, this forum can use all the help it can get. You have no way of knowing how worthwhile your initial post was. For example, just one of the 140 hits on your thread was me, and I felt sufficiently inspired (because the other music in your list proved that we were in simpatico) to go to Amazon and listen to some samples from the Solomon Burke album. I didn't respond because I didn't feel that I had anything constructive to add to the discussion (apart from "I agree" and "thanks").

Anyway, I agree, and thanks. Smile
Posted on: 19 October 2003 by redeye
If you're into Calexico (I am) suggest you try new album by Willard Grant Conspiracy called Regard the End.

Fantastic, glorious even


red
Posted on: 19 October 2003 by Bruce Woodhouse
Don't despair Greeny.

The best threads for me in this forum are of the 'if you like that then try this' variety. It was that process that got me into Calexico in the first place. I have since bought a few bits from them/Howe Gelb etc. 'The Black Light' is almost as good as Hot Rail and very similar in style. The other I would really recommend is 'Slush' by OP8 (a sort of side project with Lisa Germano). My forays into Giant Sand and Howe Gelb solo stuff have been a bit disapointing.

I first posted about Elbow when it was released, enjoying it greatly, but it has failed the test of time as it is now in the cupboard collecting dust. Apart from the obvious Coldplay similarities I'd say the most similar album in my collection would be James-either 'Laid' or 'Millionaires'. The former I think is a very underrated album.

Bruce
Posted on: 20 October 2003 by Rasher
Oh Greeny - cheer up mate! When I post to thread, it usually kills it stone dead anyway, so you wouldn't want me here Big Grin
I saw Elbow last year and they bored me rigid. I have a bit of a block with slow mournful songy type things (coldplay, Sade), but that appears to be just me. As for the rest of it, I don't know what they are on about here half the time. And I'm sure David Slater is either buying for professional/work purposes, or he is a complete nutter Smile How many hours in the day are there??
David - I think nutter Wink (in the nicest possible way of course).
Posted on: 20 October 2003 by Rasher
And I would agree with Brucie that James are a fantastic band that are seriously underrated. I saw them once as a support band, and they blew me away. Still haven't bought anything though! Have to fix that then..
Posted on: 20 October 2003 by Bruce Woodhouse
Rasher

The James 'Best of...' compilation (which is called something else I think) is a starter but the variety of less crowd-pleasing stuff makes 'Laid' the place to start IMHO.

Call me Brucie again at your peril.

Bruce
Posted on: 20 October 2003 by andy c
Minky and Greeny,
i thought it was just me posting and not getting much in the way of responses - but i feel somwhat relieved it's affecting others also... Frown
Posted on: 20 October 2003 by greeny
Wow. I don't look at the forum for a few days and suddenly one of my threads gets 10 responses. Smile

I was probably feeling a bit depressed last week having written quite a few comments on the music room and, as Rasher says, managing to kill the thread stone dead. It's good to know that at least it's not just me Big Grin

I've got to admit I do try to read most music room threads and comment where I feel I can add something, but: classical's out; many threads do seem relatively obsquire (which is not a problem but unless the music is related to something I do know unlikely to be useful, I know that several of you (Nick) do try to do this); I don't read the 'Last album' thread anymore 'cos it's too big and I'm I only recognise 1/20 of Mr Slater's lists anyway Confused


Anyway onto the Comments:

Elbow.
Obviously I've only just started listening to this so i Can't comment of longevity, but I still like it very much, I can certainly see the 'boring' argument though. Still in my top few of the year!. As for James similarities, I agree, I actaully prefer Millionaries over Laid though.


Soloman Burke.
Thanks for the comments Mike, As I stated I haven't really heard any of his other stuff, of course if I compaired I might say this album is not his best, but as a one off it's great. Also as I said his voice seemed to lack power, you say the recording is compressed, you are probably right, but even so I think the character in the voice comes through. I may need to try some of his other stuff (though I tend not to like best of's )

Willard Grant Conspiracy
Yes Regard the End is a very good album (I mentioned this in a thread a couple of months ago), but it doesn't have the Mexican/Jazz feel of Calexico, but similar in some ways. Anyone heard any other of their albums??

[This message was edited by greeny on MONDAY 20 October 2003 at 13:09.]
Posted on: 20 October 2003 by andy c
Greeny,
U may have read a similar reply I made to another comment on one of the other threads...
You do wonder sometimes if you are banging your head up agaist a brick wall tho, don't u?
I agree with you re the 'last album' post...
I have narrowed down now the number of times I visit this forum because of 'brick wall' syndrome, although I am grateful, and have acted upon, several of the replies made re various music threads & its cost me dosh! I agree it can be difficult to comment if the music being discussed is not known to you as well.
Regards,
andy c!
Posted on: 20 October 2003 by Rasher
Well Bruce Wink, I'm off to get Laid as I have a thing against Best of's.. Thanks for that.
Posted on: 20 October 2003 by Bhoyo
quote:
Originally posted by Rasher:
Well Bruce Wink, I'm off to get Laid.

Nothing to do with the jazz fusion girl, I hope Smile

Greeny:
I love the Solomon Burke album. Compressed or not, the emotion comes through.

Calexico have been recommended so many times here that it's really about time I got hold of the album.

Sorry, but I also find Elbow dull, and I just don't get Super Furry Animals. I bought Fuzzy Logic, found it unremarkable, and haven't bothered with anything of theirs since. What am I missing?

Davie
Posted on: 21 October 2003 by Mike Hughes
As a Welshman in Greater Manchester I am not as confused by someone called Bhoyo in Florida as perhaps I should be!!!

Anyway, Greeny. Don't take my Solomon comments the wrong. In retrospect they were badly phrased in part. Don't Give Up On Me is an absolute pleasure but it was only when I compared to the others (and saw him live) that I realised how much was potentially being lost to posterity. I too dislike 'Best Ofs' but the Solomon is a must as much of his output is hard to get. Revised recommendations would include King Solomon and a a read of the chapter in Peter Guralnick's 'Sweet Soul Music'. It makes me cry (with laughter) every time. Also, look out for the new Later with Jools Holland DVD which I am led to believe contains that awesome Hootenany performace where he simultaneously outsong Tom Jones and Robert Plant.

Bhoyo - I totally agree with you on Fuzzy Logic. I didn't get it all but Rings Around The World is simply irresistable. Chock full of great tunes; wonderful twists and a great production. One that demands to be played loud.
Posted on: 22 October 2003 by Bhoyo
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Hughes:
As a Welshman in Greater Manchester I am not as confused by someone called Bhoyo in Florida as perhaps I should be!!!

Mike:

Just to confuse you a little more - Bhoyo is not a Welsh reference! Think Celtic FC (I'm a transplanted Glaswegian).

And I will definitely get hold of Rings Around The World.

Davie
Posted on: 22 October 2003 by andy c
Nick,
re your comment re titling the thread... i may have got this wrong but are you saying i should have been more obscure with what I put?
Posted on: 23 October 2003 by andy c
Nick,
thanks for replying...
fair point...

regards,
andy c!