Emigration From England?
Posted by: Sloop John B on 17 May 2006
Hi all,
I was surprised and a little shocked at the replies to the "what do you think of her majesty's government" thread.
Several of you expressed a wish to emigrate.
Up to a couple of years ago emigration was a fact of life in Ireland. The population in 1950 was about half of that in 1850. It's only in the last few years that this decline has been halted and now we have nett immigration from other (generally poorer) countries.
Ireland being part of England's colonial history, probably has a love hate relationship with England. (If your are in an Irish pub during the world cup not many will be shouting good on ya Beckam - unless he's sent off - but that's another story) Most of us have looked enviously to England at times, at it's cosmopolitan nature, it's great engineering feats, it's strong democracy. Now these views of mine would have been formed in the Thatcher years (where I would have been on Paul Weller's and Billy Bragg's side). The explosion then of music with the clash, the police, madness, the specials, Costello and countless others was amazing. That's the England I like to think is still there, with the possibility of this happening again.
Yeats once wrote of Ireland
Romantic Ireland's dead and gone
it's with O'Leary in the Grave
only to revise his opinion a mere 3 years later.
Do a fair majority of you truly believe England (I'm deliberately not using Britain - Scotland or Wales could win the world cup and we'd all be thrilled - the post colonial syndrome again) is going (gone) down the tubes with no hope of redemption?
Do none of you feel you can do anything about it?
Are you still proud to be English?
SJB
I was surprised and a little shocked at the replies to the "what do you think of her majesty's government" thread.
Several of you expressed a wish to emigrate.
Up to a couple of years ago emigration was a fact of life in Ireland. The population in 1950 was about half of that in 1850. It's only in the last few years that this decline has been halted and now we have nett immigration from other (generally poorer) countries.
Ireland being part of England's colonial history, probably has a love hate relationship with England. (If your are in an Irish pub during the world cup not many will be shouting good on ya Beckam - unless he's sent off - but that's another story) Most of us have looked enviously to England at times, at it's cosmopolitan nature, it's great engineering feats, it's strong democracy. Now these views of mine would have been formed in the Thatcher years (where I would have been on Paul Weller's and Billy Bragg's side). The explosion then of music with the clash, the police, madness, the specials, Costello and countless others was amazing. That's the England I like to think is still there, with the possibility of this happening again.
Yeats once wrote of Ireland
Romantic Ireland's dead and gone
it's with O'Leary in the Grave
only to revise his opinion a mere 3 years later.
Do a fair majority of you truly believe England (I'm deliberately not using Britain - Scotland or Wales could win the world cup and we'd all be thrilled - the post colonial syndrome again) is going (gone) down the tubes with no hope of redemption?
Do none of you feel you can do anything about it?
Are you still proud to be English?
SJB
quote:Originally posted by JoeH:quote:Originally posted by bob mccluckie:
It must be a real cheapskate public school if he can afford 3 there on that salary!
Depends if it's boarding or day. Winchester College is £23,000 a year for boarders, as a guideline figure.
They are day school pupils and not boarders. My father went to Winchester (before WW2)I'm sure the fees have changed a bit since then.
quote:Originally posted by Rasher:
Last time I was in Ireland Sloop, I was amazed at the cost of things. Everything seemed to so hideously expensive. Maybe things have changed?
Er.......... Yes,
got more hideously expensive.
maybe this will give you a better idea of where house prices are with this one at about £65,000 sterling
SJB