Neo-folk - will your conscience let you listen?

Posted by: jcs_smith on 13 May 2008

I've been listening to a fair amoun t of neofolk lately, especially the folk noir, folk metal and martial industrial end of the spectrum. Bands like Sol Invictus, Current 93, Death in June, Bain Wolfkind, The Moon lay hidden beneath a Cloud, Der Blutarsch, even Laibach, although I'm not sure if you could call them that. What bothers me about the music is that some of the people have been involved in some pretty unsavoury political ideas and have recorded with some people with pretty sick ideas, like Boyd Rice. Of course in print they always distance themselves from those ideas and point out that they have worked with people of the opposite political persuasions.
Anyway the work that uses samples of german records from the 30's and 40's sounds amazing but it has this german text on it, which German not being one of my languages I can't understand. Maybe I'm being paranoid but it makes me feel uneasy. Music doesn't just have to soothe, it can be there to generate other emotions. This is pretty sophisticated stuff. It's not like Skrewdriver. I'm told it's not lyrically like that but I'm not sure. Can anyone put my mid at rest?
Posted on: 13 May 2008 by BigH47
Jeez all these bloody stupid genre names. It's bloody folk or it's metal. What next Gregorian thrash?
Posted on: 13 May 2008 by jcs_smith
Well actually it's neither
Posted on: 17 May 2008 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
Posted on: 18 May 2008 by willem
Very good topic! I never trusted Laibach in that way, but I have some Current93 records that I quite like. Should I get rid of them if I don't want to be associated with Nazism? David Tibet always gets firm recommendations in The Wire. They can be trusted. Or? I googled some of these bandnames together with 'nazi' and got some interesting results. Try for yourself!

Kind regards,

Willem
Posted on: 20 May 2008 by jcs_smith
THey don't do themselves any favours by wearing german army uniforms, sporting neo-nazi style regalia and giving some of their tracks nazi titles and then claiming they're actually left wing. It's dificult to claim ignorance when you call your band Strength Through Joy. Having said that many of them do have links with left wing groups and they do make amazing music.
Posted on: 20 May 2008 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
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Originally posted by jcs_smith:
many of them do have links with left wing groups and they do make amazing music.


Amazing music is too foggy for my taste.
A lot watch tv and think it's amazing.
When you say you like blues and jazz and they ask you how you can spend your time listen to that "niggers' stuff" there's something wrong going on.
Believe me or not but they hate me because every day i give my good morning to the african girl that bend and clean the floor around my machine.
That's the job my white grandmother did for 30 years.
Bending and cleaning floors with a cloth.

A couple of weeks ago they killed a boy in Verona (Romeo, Giulietta and the happy lot) beacuse of his hair.

This is a Boyd Rice designed t-shirt:



Make a search under "social darwinism" and read.
Of course someone (the pope f.e.) dig in the guano and come out with creationism as the "anti fascist" theory.
A dog that bites tail but that's not important when you can teach sheeps clapping on national live channel.
I feel vomit at the higher level of my throat.
Goodnight.
Posted on: 20 May 2008 by Guido Fawkes
There is obviously something I don't understand here - I've listened to Sol Invictus on MySpace and they sound like a folk group with some Delia Derbyshire inspired electronics not dissimilar to some early 70s folk rock from groups like Black Widow and quite pleasant to listen to - doesn't seem to be particularly aggressive or in any way offensive. I wouldn't want to encourage anybody who preaches hatred in any shape or form - there are no Burzum records in my collection - but this doesn't seem to be of that ilk. The lyrics are a bit bleak, but no more so than King Crimson's Epitaph. I don't know the background of any of these people, I'm just saying the music sounds OK to me.