Brilliant Classics

Posted by: throbnorth on 21 December 2002

Recordings released under this label have popped in and out on the forum - astonishing value, often difficult to find etc.

On a visit to a friend in Groningen, earlier this year, a knowledgeable friend filled me in a little on their background [this is his version, - I wouldn't claim it's necessarily accurate, & Dutch memebers may enlighten me further]. It seems the whole enterprise is the philanthropic work of the owner of a chain of discount chemists in the Netherlands [it says Kruidvat on some of my price stickers, but maybe that's not the chain merely the Dutch for 'price' - who knows], with a desire to make available excellent recordings at minimal cost to his customers, thus increasing the sum of human happiness etc] . To this end, he either commissions original recordings, or licences others from small, often British, independent labels and whacks them out at extraordinarily low prices. As a CD costs 10p to press, you can see that even at Brilliant's prices there is space for a profit, even given the philanthropy. The way it operates is that a certain number of each recording are pressed up and distributed to stores. When these are gone, then that's it. No reissues, nothing.

In the Netherlands, it seems the music press & critics were initially sceptical, but after a quick listen they very soon came round and began to haunt their local branch with the fervour of a pensioner on the tack of Saturday afternoon supermarket markdowns. And who can blame them?

On My trip to Groningen, I picked up a 10-CD set of 'Famous Dutch Organs' for about £8, which is beautifully recorded and has excellent performances from Ton Koopman downwards [doesn't maybe sound that exciting, but there is a particularly fascinating group of organs in the north of the Netherlands all built around the same period, which if you are an organ fan are hot stuff] - so you can see we're not talking just mainstream classical pops here.

On the same trip I got Vol 2 of a COMPLETE Scarlatti set for £2 [double CD, which although arranged chronologically rather than as a programme, which is a shame] by someone called Pieter-Jan Belder. It's excellent. These are examples of the specially commissioned stuff, but Nimbus, Hyperion et al. loom large in their releases as well.

Imagine my delight on finding out that this same Dutch chemist is the parent company of UK's Superdrug, and that some stuff finds its way to UK outlets at the same ludicrous prices. Not the range available over there [no complete Mozart edition, for example], but last week on a Christmas shopping binge I chanced into Superdrug and got a double Purcell [Sacred Music, Music for the funeral of Queen Mary, Songs, Music from Diocletian, Music from Timon of Athens - featuring Michael Chance, Maggie Cole, Crispian Steele-Perkins, Miscellany, Baroque Brass of London etc etc ] for ..... wait for it... £2.50. Also a beautiful double of Chopin & Field Nocturnes, on fortepiano & early pianoforte by [unknown to me] Bart van Oort. The Field is beautiful, the Chopin OK, but fortepiano isn't really me [and I've tried].

Also spotted - an eight disc set of Vivaldi [not Four Seasons] by Iona Brown / Academy of St Martins In the Fields, which must be orginally Argo, I imagine] for £6, and a few others which I can't remember.

The point of this thread is to ask for any interesting sightings to be reported. I don't visit Superdrug that regularly, but would get in the car and zoom to Putney immediately if I knew that real bargains were to be had.

And BTW, can anybody give me a source for the Shostakovitch?

throb
Posted on: 10 February 2003 by Berlin Fritz
ELO,
At a great party the other night where in between lots of Stones,Dylan,and Petty,loads of
WAM was also shoved around much to everybodies
pleasure,magic,and I didn't even fall over during
the last waltz,innit.
Wiener Fritz.

Graham Ricketts
Posted on: 12 February 2003 by Berlin Fritz
By WAM,I was referring of course to Wolfang
Amadeaus in case you couldn't tell,innit ?

Fritz Von Rollovereindhoven

Graham Ricketts
Posted on: 08 March 2003 by Mekon
If anyone is still looking, Superdrug Brighton (London Rd) has about 10 copies of Wagner's Ring Cycle (Gunter Neuhold) and 8 copies of Shostakovich's symphonies (Rudolf Barshai), at £13.99 (14 disk) and £7.99 (11 disk), respectively.
Posted on: 08 March 2003 by jayarr
I have been following this strand for a week or two now and must thank the originator for starting it. I picked up the Barshai Shostakovitch set from the Nottingham Superdrug for £8 and am well impressed.

This week I located the complete Mozart Piano Concerto set played by Derek Han. I am still in the process of making an overall critical assessment of the set but there are certainly some good performances therein. E.g. no 14 in E flat.
Posted on: 14 March 2003 by Michael
Just got the Shostakovitch 11CD set for £7.99 in Lowestoft Superdrug.

At this rate how many CD's for the price of the top end Naim system !!!!!!

Fantastic give away of the year!
Posted on: 14 March 2003 by herm
OK, Michael, that's an unbelievable price, but why do you think it's absolutely OK to pay non-realistic money for a box of cd's (with a conductor, orchestra, recording crew and publisher of the score to be remunerated), while you are perfectly willing to pay for expensive hifi? And people seem to have much less problems with paying full price for ephemeral pop / rock products - just because everybody's doing it.

I'm not attacking you, I'm just baffled by these "hey I just got 25 cd's for the kind of money that'll buy you a hot dog" posts on a site dedicated to equipment that ain;t really in the hot dog department.

Herman
Posted on: 15 March 2003 by Michael
Herman you seem to be implying that we are feeding our Naim systems with "junk food".

I can assure you that in the field of classical music there are excellent recordings and interpretations to be had on labels such as Naxos, Brilliant Classics and Regis which are as good and in many cases better than those on offer from the full price companies.

Also at these prices it gives people who are discovering classical music for the first time an opportunity like never before to hear first rate performances at a fraction of the cost of full price products.

Competition can only be good for the industry and if Naxos and the like can make a profit on selling their superb CD's for £4.99 I cannot see a problem with that.

However I accept .. why can I get these superb CD's at such a price when I have to pay 3 times (or in the case of the Shostakovitch set 18 times)that amount to buy a Chart or Jazz CD?

Interesting point but I guess the answer lies in marketing costs, making lavish videos...etc etc.
Posted on: 18 March 2003 by herm
At the risk of appearing a little inconsistent I'm here to recommend the Brilliant box with Beethoven symphonies by the Dresden Staatkapelle, conductor Herbert Blomstedt.

Some people will wonder: in the past I have said I never listen to Beethoven symphonies, and of course I have said (in the past) I'm not too hot about these Brilliant boxes either.

So what if I did? I got the box just the same.

I just so happens I'm a huge fan of the Dresden orchestra, which doesn’t get recorded that much, and I like Blomstedt a lot, too. He's one of those very good conductors who never become stars because they wear glasses or don’t marry sopranos on a regular basis.

The recordings are analogue from the late seventies. The orchestral sound is very vivid, especially the strings (and particularly the double basses). The sound is faithful to the Dresden Staatskapelle sound, which has a unmistakable string sound, very compact and homogeneous, dry and airy at the same time. For a seventies Beethoven it is very lithe and energetic. No turgid Karajan. The only thing one notices - and this is part of the Dresden sound culture - the woodwinds aren’t very prominent. They are supporting the string band first, and the oboe and clarinet solos come from way back in the orchestra.

Another interesting thing is, these appear to be one off recordings. No editing. I heard a mistake in the flute solo in the Fourth's slow movement, and a wrong beat on the drum in the opening of the Seventh. Yikes!

Still this is a firm recommendation. Not because it's cheap, but because it's good.

Herman
Posted on: 18 March 2003 by Todd A
quote:
Originally posted by herm:

At the risk of appearing a little inconsistent . . .




A little inconsistent? Ha!

I've actually been trying to get my hands on that set for months now, to no avail. My beloved Berkshire gets them and they disappear the same day! Likewise, my local CD hut just began stocking Brilliant and the good boxes - this and the Shostakovich - only arrive occasionally and when they show they are gone before lunch. I may have to import the set and pay - gasp! - the equivalent of $4 a disc!
Posted on: 12 April 2003 by throbnorth
new sighting

In Putney Superdrug [and hence presumably the rest of the UK] there was a 5 CD set of the complete Mozart piano sonatas. New digital recording by a young Dutch pianist, for £6-£7 ish [shelf blank, but that's the going Superdrug rate]. Musicweb [which seems trustworthy] reckoned they were not unmemorable, but nothing special. Amazon carries one rave review, but that could be the pianist's mother. I gave it a miss, but it might suit someone, and would be interested in hearing an opinion.

There was also something else slightly interesting, but my short term memory being what it is, I'll have to pay another visit to find out exactly what. Nothing astonishing, anyway.

Further listening to the 3 volumes of the Brilliant Scarlatti cycle make me think that this is worth following at any price - beautiful recording, excellent technique and a clarity of vision which may even outclass Scott Ross. Vol 4 has been released, but is not available at Amazon just yet [I've been checking every week]. They do each triple at £7.99.

Received the Haydn box, and whilst it's difficult to grasp the scope & scale, the six or so discs I've tried have been wonderful. Earlier recordings seem have a more resonant acoustic which is initially distracting, but Haydn just reels you in. Even at Brilliant prices it's a substantial investment, but I can't imagine anyone being disappointed. N.B. Neither this or the Scarlatti is available at Superdrug as yet, but you never can tell.

throb