defending a thread from flames

What a funny thread this is. The scholarship comment was clearly innocuous - simply stating that getting a scholarship means less cash needs to be saved. Are we becoming too sensitive?

Nigel

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Originally posted by mikeeschman:
Everybody's got their hair up about it.

at least you do....

Jim,
Thanks for getting my back buddy!

Best wishes,
Patrick


Nigel,
the funny threads are the best. Unless you meant "funny" in the same way Mike meant "getting hot".

Seriously though...... I miss Adam... that guy was f-ing hilarious.

Nigel

It's about time that someone pushed for a return to the old time values of civility and decorum, so all credit to Mike for pointing out that there is an alternative to vitriol, sarcastic comments and lack of respect.

I personally hope that all threads now take on such a considerate tone as this one clearly has.

Patrick

It was my pleasure and I have no doubt you would do the same.

Regards

Jim

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Originally posted by pcstockton:

Seriously though, good luck in your job hunt. Or better yet, good luck to your kids regarding getting scholarships!!!!

-patrick

Thanks Patrick, I hope the kid will be smart enough to get his school paid for somehow other than my hard earned cash !

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Originally posted by pcstockton:
Shoot,

I just looked at your system in your profile. Maybe it will make you feel better to know that your kit is light years beyond what most in the world could afford, and in some cases more than some people make in their entire lives.

Not only that, but regardless of price/budget, i would bet it sounds better than 90% of the non-Naim kits on the planet!

-p

And we had our Thanksgiving here only three weeks ago and I've forgotten that I should look closer to home for things to be thankful for - my wife, the kid on the way, my Naim system ;D

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Originally posted by mikeeschman:
Richard Dane, can you recommend a method to contain an uncontrolled flamer in a way that preserves the thread, so that the thread is not removed?

And as long as I'm asking, has Naim deputized Munch to monitor the forum? Does Munch serve any official capicity on these forums?

MTFU FFS

This thread really is the thread equivalent of a plaid-shirted, back-slapping, manhug in the woods in front of a campfire on a starry night. Hrh!

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This thread really is the thread equivalent of a plaid-shirted, back-slapping, manhug in the woods in front of a campfire on a starry night. Hrh!

It's worse than that....!

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Originally posted by SC:

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This thread really is the thread equivalent of a plaid-shirted, back-slapping, manhug in the woods in front of a campfire on a starry night. Hrh!

It's worse than that....!

Like a mass circle jerk in a sausage factory?

Typical

It takes a crass American to jump in and ruin the tone! This thread is all about genteelness, a return to days gone by when everyone treated their neighbours with respect, valued each others opinion and listened quietly while others humbly explained their points of view.

Don't you just think that all threads should be like this one? I am for one am enjoying the serenity and calmness that simply weaves it's way off the page and it provides an oasis in a desert of vitriol.

Best wishes to you all today.

Jim

This is such a nice, civilised thread, I'm starting to feel faintly nauseous.

Perhaps it is reassuring at times to know that we all are capable of being civilised, even if we choose not to in other threads.
It just shows the rough and tumble for what it is.
Don, sunny downtown York
PS I think it shows great gentlemanly restraint by some of you that no-one has ever criticised my habit of putting my location and weather on all my mails.

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Originally posted by shoot6x7:

There are many here who happily throw around thousands if not tens of thousands of dollars on bits of electronics.

I think this is obscene

I'd suggest you stop using expensive roll films and get a digital point&shoot

Seriously though, I'm sorry about your work situation and hope it improves soon.

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Originally posted by Rockingdoc:

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Originally posted by shoot6x7:

There are many here who happily throw around thousands if not tens of thousands of dollars on bits of electronics.

I think this is obscene

I'd suggest you stop using expensive roll films and get a digital point&shoot

Seriously though, I'm sorry about your work situation and hope it improves soon.

OMG someone's been paying attention !

My basement fridge is fairly well stocked with sheet film and roll film. But, truth be told, since being laid-off (five-moths now) I haven't shot or developed any roll-film, it's just too expensive to process right now. I have however exposed and developed my own 5x7 B&W sheet film.

Everything else has been digital with a trusty DSLR !

Thanks for the kind words ...

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I have however exposed and developed my own 5x7 B&W sheet film.

I took some photography classes some years back and I did shoot and develop some 5x7 sheet film. Digital still does not come close to that IMO. There is something almost tactile about the images.

Jim

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Originally posted by Exiled Highlander:

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I have however exposed and developed my own 5x7 B&W sheet film.

I took some photography classes some years back and I did shoot and develop some 5x7 sheet film. Digital still does not come close to that IMO. There is something almost tactile about the images.

Jim

Do you perhaps mean 5"x4"? Sorry to be pedantic, but this is a nerds' forum after all

No, he probably means 5x7. Although 5x4 is the most popular and generally easiest to handle, sheet film is available in numerous popular sizes - 10x8, 11x14 - all the way up to 20x24".

In fact, to get pedantic about it, you can even go bigger than that with custom sizes - a portrait photographer I know built his own camera body that uses special oversize film he sources from NASA !

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Originally posted by Exiled Highlander:
I took some photography classes some years back and I did shoot and develop some 5x7 sheet film. Digital still does not come close to that IMO. There is something almost tactile about the images.

Very true Jim. I used to regularly do the scanning and retouching for a well known large format photographer when I was based in London and the scans off the 5x4 would amaze me every time. Once retouched they were then often output to 5' Giclée or Lambda prints for print sales and the quality was simply stunning.

Even though I worked with the format regularly etc, the amount of detail held in the film always stunned me - I remember scanning a set of images from a shoot in Gaza and the Occupied Territories which were general landscape images of some of the settlements, taken from some height on nearby hills. After scan, I would normally zoom in to 50-70% to 'spot' and clean up the images from dust etc, and as you looked further and further 'into' the image more and more detail was revealed - I recall zooming all the way in to a tiny spec of a tower block on the horizon and being stunned to make out people sitting in their living-rooms and on their balconies !

To be fair, I have seen images from Hasselblad's H3DII medium format dig camera, and they were very impressive. Fantastic detail. But, you mention the key word - Tactility. It seems to be lacking when compared to film. Difficult to describe exactly, but there's just a feeling that's naturally missing...

Steve.

I've done plenty of 4x5" but find it a little too small for contact printing. I then went upto 8x10" which can be a bit cumbersome.

I then found that 5x7" was the perfect happy medium :-)

To me a properly exposed 5x7" contact print is a wonder to behold.

The best part of 4x5" for me was type 53/54/55 Polaroid instant sheet film, sadly no longer produced :-(

Ah, Type 55 - what beautiful film. When Polaroid announced it's end I intended to buy a large batch for a, yet to be conceived, future project (as well as purchasing a 5x4 field camera)....Sadly, I took my eye of it and never did any...I presume stocks have long since gone...

Rockingdoc

OK....I confess, I did mean 5x4 and not 5x7.....however my point about tactility remains.

I also agree with SC about the quality of large format digtal images but just like the analog vs digital debate in audio there is a certain intangible quality to film.

Cheers

Jim