Polish Vodka? Part the Second.
Posted by: u5227470736789439 on 01 December 2008
The old thread was a deal of great fun for me, and as I am having a Birthday Party this weekend, I had hoped to revitalise the old Thread, which may be found here:
Polish Vodka?
Now consigned to being history, it still has much warmth and humanity in it, and hopefully we can carry on talking about such wonderous moments as we did then in this thread from now on!
ATB from George
Polish Vodka?
Now consigned to being history, it still has much warmth and humanity in it, and hopefully we can carry on talking about such wonderous moments as we did then in this thread from now on!
ATB from George
Posted on: 25 July 2009 by u5227470736789439
Did at least eight or ten miles on the bike hunting down Cromwell Smallman only to find them shut on a Saturday! Doh! But it was nice day for a run out on the bike!
Last night we were planning how to get to Poland on a bike, and concluded that it would take too long, so the solution is part bike, part ferry [obviously!] and part trains.
Then you could really make something of the journey!
ATB from George
Last night we were planning how to get to Poland on a bike, and concluded that it would take too long, so the solution is part bike, part ferry [obviously!] and part trains.
Then you could really make something of the journey!
ATB from George
Posted on: 09 August 2009 by u5227470736789439
Here is a photo taken of the old Carlton showing exactly how easy it is to ride at ultra-low speed with the straight handle bar!
This was in an interlude during setting up the PC with a load of capacity to handle the iTunes library.
ATB from George
This was in an interlude during setting up the PC with a load of capacity to handle the iTunes library.
ATB from George
Posted on: 22 August 2009 by u5227470736789439
The old bike will be treated to a nice restoration this winter. I'll get a piece of heavy iron to use in the winter months.
First stage is to get some new forks fitted. Done on Friday:
Still nice English hand-work, done thirty five years after the bike. Ordered six weeks ago and made less than a fortnight ago:
Showing the safe aspect as well:
Definitely not quick release, which is a probably a good thing on the front for anything other than actually racing.
Next stage will be a proper paint job on the whole bike at a frame makers.
Then it will be a semi-antique [like the owner] in top shape [also like its owner!].
ATB from George
PS: I might add that the bike rides more nicely on the new fork, and is clearly more docile on the front brake. The old chromed Reynolds fork, which was quite corroded, was prone to a bit of shake with the brake, but this is more robust, though not heavier.
First stage is to get some new forks fitted. Done on Friday:
Still nice English hand-work, done thirty five years after the bike. Ordered six weeks ago and made less than a fortnight ago:
Showing the safe aspect as well:
Definitely not quick release, which is a probably a good thing on the front for anything other than actually racing.
Next stage will be a proper paint job on the whole bike at a frame makers.
Then it will be a semi-antique [like the owner] in top shape [also like its owner!].
ATB from George
PS: I might add that the bike rides more nicely on the new fork, and is clearly more docile on the front brake. The old chromed Reynolds fork, which was quite corroded, was prone to a bit of shake with the brake, but this is more robust, though not heavier.
Posted on: 26 August 2009 by u5227470736789439
Considering the above two posts, what about the idea of loosing some link to the original, but going for somethong simple and which I would like?
The new forks are splendid, so what about keeping the Magnolia "Carlton" trademark head-tube as Magnolia, but painting the rest of the frame black [which I like being a bit of an austere old thing] and simply keeping the Carlton name on the down-tube [if that is the correct word for the the tube running from the head-tube to the bottom bracket]?
Not fussed about impressing afficianados of the antique bike type, in reality ...
ATB from George
The new forks are splendid, so what about keeping the Magnolia "Carlton" trademark head-tube as Magnolia, but painting the rest of the frame black [which I like being a bit of an austere old thing] and simply keeping the Carlton name on the down-tube [if that is the correct word for the the tube running from the head-tube to the bottom bracket]?
Not fussed about impressing afficianados of the antique bike type, in reality ...
ATB from George
Posted on: 29 August 2009 by u5227470736789439
Thursday evening and all night on Friday till Saturday morning saw me enjoying on the best of Polish parties in ages!
Needless to say the excuse for it was strong, a birthday. The first night had to be cut short for me because - as busy as we are at work - there is no way I could put myself in the position of being absent on the Friday! I won't go into much detail except give a small hint in that six of us enjoyed five bottles of vodka and seven crates of beer over the two nights!
Very satisfactory, for if I died tomorrow at least I had an outrageously fine party in 2009!!
Whereas tonight finds me eliminating tagging errors on the iTunes ...
The best way seems to be to troll round the referencing engine and researching why this or that does not emerge when the suitable search word is inserted!
Really it is important to be able to bring up the very work one is looking for, and further reduce it by also inserting the main performing artist's name. As I kinow exactly what recordings I have, this makes it relatively easy to track down stragglers, but heaven help the collector more interested in numbers of recordings than the actual lovability of much more limited [but special] selection, were he to attempt this process. There is more than a chance that ripping the discs would see them irredemably lost in the system! For this situation, no doubt carrying on with normal CD or LP replay is the preferred option even if the quality of replay [for any given actual level of expenditure] is likely to be less fine. It is the large collectors privelege to often have the money to buy the very best in replay regardless of cost, so the fact that a PC based system can have a distinct advantage in terms of providing extra-ordinary VFM compared to the quality obtained by conventional means may seem not significant. No computer based system is going to shade a top turnatble or something like a CD555. But in the mid-range of pieces it can be competitve in performance and is very much less expensive to buy and certainly much less expensive to repair and service over time. But in many ways it is not particularly suitable for people with very large collections of recorded music, for the reason of ever taming the indexing issue ...
One of my heroic musical finds in the last year has been Carmen Piazzini playing Mozart, who strikes me as being every bit the equal of Clara Haskil in the repertoire! As Clara Haskil and Edwin Fischer are my two favourite Mozart pianiists [though Fischer is quite wide in his reecorded repertoire compared to Haskil] to find a modern day pianist like Piazzini is a tremendous thing for me as she has done all the Piano concertos and Sonatas of Mozart, and in a fashion that sounds a mile away from the risk of being only routine run throughs!
These recordings should be much better known and more wdely respected.
Another fascinating area, rather neglected by me, has been hunting through the Mass setting of Joseph Haydn. I find that I have all the Masses except [rather oddly as it a great one] the Nelson Mass! This is a challenge to find suitable tags! But one solution is to make phantom albums thus loosing what are always unsuitable couplings made to fill the CD's capacity - no one, absolutely no normal person at least, would want to listen to two Mass settings in a row! So that, for example, the Saint Stephen Mass is held together by a new title as the "Saint Stephen Mass." Thus searching for them become a piece of cake. Hunting them out on CDs was anything but easy because of the need to search through perhaps twenty tracks, cued as the result of magnifying glass grade printing!
On the other hand it is surely utterly true that if I never managed in my whole life to arrange my LPs and CDs in anything approaching a sensible alphabetic system of order on the shelf, with iTunes it will be for the first time ultra-organised!
I shall produce a word doc, where the catalogue is arranged in pure composer alphabetic order, then divided according to work in cataloguing order [either opus or catalogue numbers] further divide my alphabetic ordering according to principle performer for cases where multiple recorded versions exist which is surprisingly few I have found now.
On this word doc next each performance will a unique search word or combinations of words that bring the very work and very version being considered up as unique playlist with no additional items to have to cut out by rapidly turning the replay off!
One of the major disadvantages of the industry's requirement to make well filled discs - because of the general demand for VFM rather artistically pleasing programmes of music on discs - is the incredibly unsuitable couplings that take place! Eliminating these deeply unsatisfying couplings will be a major iTunes benifit, as will allowing for a complete opera [or other piece of multi CD length] to play through without interuption.
The chief benefit will be that all music is equally easy to access, so there is less risk of having a pile of discs close to the player that dominates the listening at the expense of things, hidden away, and much less easily accessible.
On the other hand there are some very satisfying recital type recordings where it is clear that the result of playing through as originally intended produces an artistic result that seems more than the sum of its parts. These I have carefully retagged so that they play bas originally intended by the artists and their producers.
It is all a judgement call, but once the work is done then I predict that the result will be much less of an obstacle to use than CDs, and that my listening will fan out onto a much wider range of music in my library rather than settling to perhaps fifty odd discs ant any time till I get fed up and put back into the storage boxes and hunt out another fifty over a week or three!
One might argue that good shelving would also get a similar result, but it does not alter the fact that discs do, on occasion, go west, and the truth is that it is the most valued that seem to to do this!
Once in the computer and multiply backed up, I do not predict loosing anything highly valued from now on.
ATb from George
Needless to say the excuse for it was strong, a birthday. The first night had to be cut short for me because - as busy as we are at work - there is no way I could put myself in the position of being absent on the Friday! I won't go into much detail except give a small hint in that six of us enjoyed five bottles of vodka and seven crates of beer over the two nights!
Very satisfactory, for if I died tomorrow at least I had an outrageously fine party in 2009!!
Whereas tonight finds me eliminating tagging errors on the iTunes ...
The best way seems to be to troll round the referencing engine and researching why this or that does not emerge when the suitable search word is inserted!
Really it is important to be able to bring up the very work one is looking for, and further reduce it by also inserting the main performing artist's name. As I kinow exactly what recordings I have, this makes it relatively easy to track down stragglers, but heaven help the collector more interested in numbers of recordings than the actual lovability of much more limited [but special] selection, were he to attempt this process. There is more than a chance that ripping the discs would see them irredemably lost in the system! For this situation, no doubt carrying on with normal CD or LP replay is the preferred option even if the quality of replay [for any given actual level of expenditure] is likely to be less fine. It is the large collectors privelege to often have the money to buy the very best in replay regardless of cost, so the fact that a PC based system can have a distinct advantage in terms of providing extra-ordinary VFM compared to the quality obtained by conventional means may seem not significant. No computer based system is going to shade a top turnatble or something like a CD555. But in the mid-range of pieces it can be competitve in performance and is very much less expensive to buy and certainly much less expensive to repair and service over time. But in many ways it is not particularly suitable for people with very large collections of recorded music, for the reason of ever taming the indexing issue ...
One of my heroic musical finds in the last year has been Carmen Piazzini playing Mozart, who strikes me as being every bit the equal of Clara Haskil in the repertoire! As Clara Haskil and Edwin Fischer are my two favourite Mozart pianiists [though Fischer is quite wide in his reecorded repertoire compared to Haskil] to find a modern day pianist like Piazzini is a tremendous thing for me as she has done all the Piano concertos and Sonatas of Mozart, and in a fashion that sounds a mile away from the risk of being only routine run throughs!
These recordings should be much better known and more wdely respected.
Another fascinating area, rather neglected by me, has been hunting through the Mass setting of Joseph Haydn. I find that I have all the Masses except [rather oddly as it a great one] the Nelson Mass! This is a challenge to find suitable tags! But one solution is to make phantom albums thus loosing what are always unsuitable couplings made to fill the CD's capacity - no one, absolutely no normal person at least, would want to listen to two Mass settings in a row! So that, for example, the Saint Stephen Mass is held together by a new title as the "Saint Stephen Mass." Thus searching for them become a piece of cake. Hunting them out on CDs was anything but easy because of the need to search through perhaps twenty tracks, cued as the result of magnifying glass grade printing!
On the other hand it is surely utterly true that if I never managed in my whole life to arrange my LPs and CDs in anything approaching a sensible alphabetic system of order on the shelf, with iTunes it will be for the first time ultra-organised!
I shall produce a word doc, where the catalogue is arranged in pure composer alphabetic order, then divided according to work in cataloguing order [either opus or catalogue numbers] further divide my alphabetic ordering according to principle performer for cases where multiple recorded versions exist which is surprisingly few I have found now.
On this word doc next each performance will a unique search word or combinations of words that bring the very work and very version being considered up as unique playlist with no additional items to have to cut out by rapidly turning the replay off!
One of the major disadvantages of the industry's requirement to make well filled discs - because of the general demand for VFM rather artistically pleasing programmes of music on discs - is the incredibly unsuitable couplings that take place! Eliminating these deeply unsatisfying couplings will be a major iTunes benifit, as will allowing for a complete opera [or other piece of multi CD length] to play through without interuption.
The chief benefit will be that all music is equally easy to access, so there is less risk of having a pile of discs close to the player that dominates the listening at the expense of things, hidden away, and much less easily accessible.
On the other hand there are some very satisfying recital type recordings where it is clear that the result of playing through as originally intended produces an artistic result that seems more than the sum of its parts. These I have carefully retagged so that they play bas originally intended by the artists and their producers.
It is all a judgement call, but once the work is done then I predict that the result will be much less of an obstacle to use than CDs, and that my listening will fan out onto a much wider range of music in my library rather than settling to perhaps fifty odd discs ant any time till I get fed up and put back into the storage boxes and hunt out another fifty over a week or three!
One might argue that good shelving would also get a similar result, but it does not alter the fact that discs do, on occasion, go west, and the truth is that it is the most valued that seem to to do this!
Once in the computer and multiply backed up, I do not predict loosing anything highly valued from now on.
ATb from George
Posted on: 03 September 2009 by u5227470736789439
Two men on a train, one a Cardinal [in his proper robes] and one not a man of the cloth.
The Cardinal is doing a cross-word puzzle, and says to the other man,
"The clue is four letters ending in u-n-t, and it is a description of something feminine. I can't get it."
The man is stumped and thinks very hard for a few minutes about what he could possibly say the the Cardinal under the circumstances, but he has a brain-wave! He says,
"Your Eminenece, how about, aunt?" and the Cardinal replies,
"Thank you. That is very good. Have you got an eraser?"
ATB from George
The Cardinal is doing a cross-word puzzle, and says to the other man,
"The clue is four letters ending in u-n-t, and it is a description of something feminine. I can't get it."
The man is stumped and thinks very hard for a few minutes about what he could possibly say the the Cardinal under the circumstances, but he has a brain-wave! He says,
"Your Eminenece, how about, aunt?" and the Cardinal replies,
"Thank you. That is very good. Have you got an eraser?"
ATB from George
Posted on: 03 September 2009 by fixedwheel
You didn't think he would ask for a rubber, would you? 
John
John
Posted on: 04 September 2009 by Svetty
Just caught up on the thread George.
I'm sure you'll understand when I say that my sense of aesthetics is rather offended by the flat bars on the Carlton. I understand why they are there of course but still they jar!
In defence of quick-release skewers they do make changing tubes in the event of punctures a much easier process!
I'm sure you'll understand when I say that my sense of aesthetics is rather offended by the flat bars on the Carlton. I understand why they are there of course but still they jar!
In defence of quick-release skewers they do make changing tubes in the event of punctures a much easier process!
Posted on: 04 September 2009 by u5227470736789439
Dear Svetty,
But seeing as the old bike might well be in landfill by now if I had not aquired it, I think it is much nicer to see it at all, even with a flat bar. I did not pay for it, of course! My friend's wife wanted it gone, and so my mention to my friend of getting another nice old English bike - a BSA of nothing like the finesse of the Carlton - brought up the subject and its future was happily secured ...
I am toying with the idea of getting a Great North Road bar actually if I can get a test ride on a bike with one!
That would be a truly antique style bar on fairly old style bike. I actually like the old fashioned angled back hand and wrist position, but I got the flat bar for nothing as effectively no one wanted it as it had been fitted to a custom made machine and rejected.
A Great North Road bar would be an interesting juxtaposition of eras [of design] for sure.
I am really unable to explain how happy that machine makes me, but that is because I had never had a remotely splendid bike before this one!
Also I am going to investigate getting the frame beautifully repainted, so that the various [and there are more than look obvious in the photos] breaks in the paint [from being used by its previous owner] don't eventually lead to corrosion. I will let it go to one of the bespoke frame makers for a really posh job, when I get back from Poland in October.
But also for the winter get something like a normal Raleigh with three speed hub and mudguards so as not to spoil the Carlton with such terrble things!
ATB from George
But seeing as the old bike might well be in landfill by now if I had not aquired it, I think it is much nicer to see it at all, even with a flat bar. I did not pay for it, of course! My friend's wife wanted it gone, and so my mention to my friend of getting another nice old English bike - a BSA of nothing like the finesse of the Carlton - brought up the subject and its future was happily secured ...
I am toying with the idea of getting a Great North Road bar actually if I can get a test ride on a bike with one!
That would be a truly antique style bar on fairly old style bike. I actually like the old fashioned angled back hand and wrist position, but I got the flat bar for nothing as effectively no one wanted it as it had been fitted to a custom made machine and rejected.
A Great North Road bar would be an interesting juxtaposition of eras [of design] for sure.
I am really unable to explain how happy that machine makes me, but that is because I had never had a remotely splendid bike before this one!
Also I am going to investigate getting the frame beautifully repainted, so that the various [and there are more than look obvious in the photos] breaks in the paint [from being used by its previous owner] don't eventually lead to corrosion. I will let it go to one of the bespoke frame makers for a really posh job, when I get back from Poland in October.
But also for the winter get something like a normal Raleigh with three speed hub and mudguards so as not to spoil the Carlton with such terrble things!
ATB from George
Posted on: 04 September 2009 by u5227470736789439
And another absolutely amazing party has not merely been survived!
My most brilliant Polish friends, Rena, Krzys, Pawel, and Justina were there to witness such a lovely sending into the year thirty of one of our group, which is a piquant moment indeed.
It is always nice to be there to see the happy end to a party ...
ATB from George
PS: I came home painlessly on the Carlton, though to be fair it is only 300 metres ...
My most brilliant Polish friends, Rena, Krzys, Pawel, and Justina were there to witness such a lovely sending into the year thirty of one of our group, which is a piquant moment indeed.
It is always nice to be there to see the happy end to a party ...
ATB from George
PS: I came home painlessly on the Carlton, though to be fair it is only 300 metres ...
Posted on: 09 September 2009 by u5227470736789439
I have got another bike for the winter.
A heavy-weight Raleigh [Chinese made, I think] with mudguards, panier carriers, and so on, as well as having rather sensible wheels for the winter wet and possible ice.
About twice as wide as the spindly jobs on the Carlton, but also on wider 700 sized rims.
The bike weighs a great deal more than the Carlton, and and will be much less fun to ride, but will save the old veteran from use in rough conditions, and save me from getting a wet back on the way to work!
I have to fix the Raleigh up as there is a ruined back tyre [and the front is not much better but at least it is would blow up and is only cracked a bit and not totally destroyed!], and the whole bike needs a major amount of TLC. On the other hand it has lights, and front suspension and a shock absorber under the saddle, so will seem like a Daimler after the Caterham-like Carlton.
Really I never fancied a Daimler ...
But this also means that the Carlton can be taken out of service for long enough for a posh paint job, and also be given a major birthday overhaul ready for next year!
ATb from George
A heavy-weight Raleigh [Chinese made, I think] with mudguards, panier carriers, and so on, as well as having rather sensible wheels for the winter wet and possible ice.
About twice as wide as the spindly jobs on the Carlton, but also on wider 700 sized rims.
The bike weighs a great deal more than the Carlton, and and will be much less fun to ride, but will save the old veteran from use in rough conditions, and save me from getting a wet back on the way to work!
I have to fix the Raleigh up as there is a ruined back tyre [and the front is not much better but at least it is would blow up and is only cracked a bit and not totally destroyed!], and the whole bike needs a major amount of TLC. On the other hand it has lights, and front suspension and a shock absorber under the saddle, so will seem like a Daimler after the Caterham-like Carlton.
Really I never fancied a Daimler ...
But this also means that the Carlton can be taken out of service for long enough for a posh paint job, and also be given a major birthday overhaul ready for next year!
ATb from George
Posted on: 09 September 2009 by u5227470736789439
Back wheel is out and probably will be for a couple of weeks till I get a pair of good tyres!
Then, but it is terrible plain compared to the Carlton - plain like it is trying to be handsome, whilst the Calton tries and succeeds in looking absolutely nothing effortlessly!
You will see the 140 with a beautiful new knob on it first!
ATB from George
Then, but it is terrible plain compared to the Carlton - plain like it is trying to be handsome, whilst the Calton tries and succeeds in looking absolutely nothing effortlessly!
You will see the 140 with a beautiful new knob on it first!
ATB from George
Posted on: 10 September 2009 by u5227470736789439
Dear Stu,
I can't, because the exhaust is falling off the Volvo.
It runs out of MOT the week I am back from Poland, and it will be scrapped at that time.
I have not driven it for months actually ...
ATB from George
I can't, because the exhaust is falling off the Volvo.
It runs out of MOT the week I am back from Poland, and it will be scrapped at that time.
I have not driven it for months actually ...
ATB from George
Posted on: 10 September 2009 by GML
Dear George,
I have owned this Carlton bicycle from new in 1988. The only major change is some new wheels about three years ago. The spokes started to snap on the old ones and it wasn't worth re-building them. Will you keep yours as true to the correct colour as possible when you re-paint the frame?
Regards
George.
Posted on: 10 September 2009 by fixedwheel
quote:Originally posted by avole:
Not wishing to strike a sour note, but could you guys swap email addresses?
Why? After all this is the Padded Cell, and even more On Topic is the fact that it is George's thread.
After all the Forum subtitle states
quote:We know you have other interests so here's a quiet room where you can talk about F1, mountain bikes, computers and whatever else takes your fancy.
HTH
John
Posted on: 10 September 2009 by Svetty
quote:Originally posted by avole:
Not wishing to strike a sour note
Then don't!
Posted on: 10 September 2009 by u5227470736789439
Dear avole,
If you do not enjoy this thread, then please do make all the comments you like to that effect.
All feedback is welcomed here, and it would be most interesting to read read about your bikes, cars, Vodka drinking sessions, visits to Poland or anything else that is a little off the wall.
Of course it is personal, and of course it is open for any member to join in! I love it when people do, though we don't usually argue in this thread to be honest.
Best wishes from George
If you do not enjoy this thread, then please do make all the comments you like to that effect.
All feedback is welcomed here, and it would be most interesting to read read about your bikes, cars, Vodka drinking sessions, visits to Poland or anything else that is a little off the wall.
Of course it is personal, and of course it is open for any member to join in! I love it when people do, though we don't usually argue in this thread to be honest.
Best wishes from George
Posted on: 10 September 2009 by fixedwheel
quote:Originally posted by avole:
It's also a private blog. However, that wasn't my point, it was more that GFFJ, munch and others had private business to transact for which email is ideally suited, or even the telephone.
IYO, other people were hoping that GFFJ was joining a few more from these parts at Stu's.
quote:
As it happens, I never read GFFJs diary and it was only in error I saw this, and was merely suggesting a better means of communication.
Sorry we distracted you from what you were looking for.
quote:
By the way, it isn't Georges thread, no matter that it contains autobiographical stuff, but a thread open for anyone to make comment. That's what a forum is about.
As George is the Original Poster of this thread, it is George's thread.
John
Posted on: 10 September 2009 by u5227470736789439
Dear George [GML],
Your Carlton is unquestionably in better condition than mine, though mine is still on the original wheels. The gear set [cassette] is what is called "Heliocomatic" which dates mine as older, though the model and colour scheme might have gone on for years.
I am torn between keeping the original colour and choosing something different, because I have replaced the chrome-plated Reynold forks, and the new ones [nice English hand work from a small workshop made to order as a result of my taking the bike back to the very shop it was first bought from new] are black enamelled.
The old forks had lost about half the chrome, and were in fect much more corroded underneath than I had realised. Probably not a safety issue, but altogether they were an eye-sore!
So what to do?
I had the idea of keeping the magnolia of the head tube exactly and getting the rest painted black. Obviously using a frame maker to do the job. I do not want any but a top job on it as I simply love the way it goes.
What do you think?
This is work for the winter months and no definite decision has been taken over it.
The Raleigh will be a trial after the Carlton, I reckon, but I'd rather keep the Carlton smart than spoil it in the rough of the winter. Keep it for the summer keep it light as possible, and occasionally perhaps use it for some really long rides next summer.
I expect you can see where my motoring is going after the next MOT on the Volvo! Giving up motoring will be no hardship, I can tell you!
ATB from George
Your Carlton is unquestionably in better condition than mine, though mine is still on the original wheels. The gear set [cassette] is what is called "Heliocomatic" which dates mine as older, though the model and colour scheme might have gone on for years.
I am torn between keeping the original colour and choosing something different, because I have replaced the chrome-plated Reynold forks, and the new ones [nice English hand work from a small workshop made to order as a result of my taking the bike back to the very shop it was first bought from new] are black enamelled.
The old forks had lost about half the chrome, and were in fect much more corroded underneath than I had realised. Probably not a safety issue, but altogether they were an eye-sore!
So what to do?
I had the idea of keeping the magnolia of the head tube exactly and getting the rest painted black. Obviously using a frame maker to do the job. I do not want any but a top job on it as I simply love the way it goes.
What do you think?
This is work for the winter months and no definite decision has been taken over it.
The Raleigh will be a trial after the Carlton, I reckon, but I'd rather keep the Carlton smart than spoil it in the rough of the winter. Keep it for the summer keep it light as possible, and occasionally perhaps use it for some really long rides next summer.
I expect you can see where my motoring is going after the next MOT on the Volvo! Giving up motoring will be no hardship, I can tell you!
ATB from George
Posted on: 10 September 2009 by u5227470736789439
Dear avole,
Please don't labour the point. You were entirely clear in you first post, which I answered and which response you did not replay to.
You were perfectly clear the first time.
I am trying to talk to GML about a Carlton bike, which if you keep on will get lost in the wasted space of petty point scoring.
ATB from George
Please don't labour the point. You were entirely clear in you first post, which I answered and which response you did not replay to.
You were perfectly clear the first time.
I am trying to talk to GML about a Carlton bike, which if you keep on will get lost in the wasted space of petty point scoring.
ATB from George
Posted on: 10 September 2009 by u5227470736789439
Dear George [GML],
Your Carlton is unquestionably in better condition than mine, though mine is still on the original wheels. The gear set [cassette] is what is called "Heliocomatic" which dates mine as older, though the model and colour scheme might have gone on for years.
I am torn between keeping the original colour and choosing something different, because I have replaced the chrome-plated Reynold forks, and the new ones [nice English hand work from a small workshop made to order as a result of my taking the bike back to the very shop it was first bought from new] are black enamelled.
The old forks had lost about half the chrome, and were in fect much more corroded underneath than I had realised. Probably not a safety issue, but altogether they were an eye-sore!
So what to do?
I had the idea of keeping the magnolia of the head tube exactly and getting the rest painted black. Obviously using a frame maker to do the job. I do not want any but a top job on it as I simply love the way it goes.
What do you think?
This is work for the winter months and no definite decision has been taken over it.
The Raleigh will be a trial after the Carlton, I reckon, but I'd rather keep the Carlton smart than spoil it in the rough of the winter. Keep it for the summer keep it light as possible, and occasionally perhaps use it for some really long rides next summer.
I expect you can see where my motoring is going after the next MOT on the Volvo! Giving up motoring will be no hardship, I can tell you!
ATB from George
Your Carlton is unquestionably in better condition than mine, though mine is still on the original wheels. The gear set [cassette] is what is called "Heliocomatic" which dates mine as older, though the model and colour scheme might have gone on for years.
I am torn between keeping the original colour and choosing something different, because I have replaced the chrome-plated Reynold forks, and the new ones [nice English hand work from a small workshop made to order as a result of my taking the bike back to the very shop it was first bought from new] are black enamelled.
The old forks had lost about half the chrome, and were in fect much more corroded underneath than I had realised. Probably not a safety issue, but altogether they were an eye-sore!
So what to do?
I had the idea of keeping the magnolia of the head tube exactly and getting the rest painted black. Obviously using a frame maker to do the job. I do not want any but a top job on it as I simply love the way it goes.
What do you think?
This is work for the winter months and no definite decision has been taken over it.
The Raleigh will be a trial after the Carlton, I reckon, but I'd rather keep the Carlton smart than spoil it in the rough of the winter. Keep it for the summer keep it light as possible, and occasionally perhaps use it for some really long rides next summer.
I expect you can see where my motoring is going after the next MOT on the Volvo! Giving up motoring will be no hardship, I can tell you!
ATB from George
Posted on: 10 September 2009 by GML
Dear George,
The Carlton is a fine cycle as you well know. The Reynolds 501 tubing is perfect for giving it more pedal power when you feel the need. It just feels right, which may be down to the geometry, I don't know.
I believe I've mentioned it before but I also have a decent carbon fibre framed bike which is quite nifty. As good as it is I still prefer my old Carlton. It has a character that I don't find in the other one. Go into a bike shop nowadays and the Carlton's look from another age. I had to take mine in recently when a pedal (Shimano AX 600) which are now as rare as rocking horse muck developed a click that could be felt through the foot. Luckily a strip down, clean, new bearings and grease sorted it.
If I was you I'd pick any colour for the frame that took my fancy and black would go well with magnolia. I'm sure whatever you chose will look splendid. Good luck with it.
Talking of motoring, I went by train into the city yesterday because I didn't have the car. It was bliss, a fifteen minute walk to the station and a nice relaxing journey.
You'll be flying along on the Carlton next summer after a winter on the Raleigh. I look forward to seeing the newly painted frame.
Kind regards
George.
The Carlton is a fine cycle as you well know. The Reynolds 501 tubing is perfect for giving it more pedal power when you feel the need. It just feels right, which may be down to the geometry, I don't know.
I believe I've mentioned it before but I also have a decent carbon fibre framed bike which is quite nifty. As good as it is I still prefer my old Carlton. It has a character that I don't find in the other one. Go into a bike shop nowadays and the Carlton's look from another age. I had to take mine in recently when a pedal (Shimano AX 600) which are now as rare as rocking horse muck developed a click that could be felt through the foot. Luckily a strip down, clean, new bearings and grease sorted it.
If I was you I'd pick any colour for the frame that took my fancy and black would go well with magnolia. I'm sure whatever you chose will look splendid. Good luck with it.
Talking of motoring, I went by train into the city yesterday because I didn't have the car. It was bliss, a fifteen minute walk to the station and a nice relaxing journey.
You'll be flying along on the Carlton next summer after a winter on the Raleigh. I look forward to seeing the newly painted frame.
Kind regards
George.
Posted on: 10 September 2009 by u5227470736789439
Dear George,
As the owner of my bike's Forum twin, I would have taken you seriously if you had said keep with the original metalic green colour scheme, but as you think some freedom is reasonable, then I will go with the black idea, and keeping the trademark Carlton magnolia on the head tube.
I shall have to source some proper Carlton transfers for it, but this will happen over the coming months. I know black is rather low key as a scheme, but I like things that are unflashy, and I have a particualr liking for non-metalic schemes on bikes and cars as well.
No doubt the rebuild, for that is what it will amount to will be documented as it progresses, and yes, I do imagine that the Carlton will seem easy work after the Raleigh, through the winter.
What is sad is exactly how much neglect the poor Raleigh has suffered. Only two years old and looks like it has never seen an oil can, or burnishing rag.
Everything is out of adjustment, and the gears make a horrendous din! All it needs is TLC, and it will run quietly, though nothing will alter the fact that it is a ton weight when considered next the Carlton!
I agree about the Carlton's Reynolds 501 tubing frame being just right to accept a good deal of energy when the mood hits for a bit of acceleration or hill climbing.
From work the first thing I have is a long if fairly gentle hill off the roundabout. I like to get onto top gear and really get it bowling up that hill so that at the top, I am going as fast as I can continue along the flat at the top. The bike positively invites an energetic approach, because it responds so nicely by getting faster or keeping good pace going up a bank without dropping gear or speed!
ATB from George
As the owner of my bike's Forum twin, I would have taken you seriously if you had said keep with the original metalic green colour scheme, but as you think some freedom is reasonable, then I will go with the black idea, and keeping the trademark Carlton magnolia on the head tube.
I shall have to source some proper Carlton transfers for it, but this will happen over the coming months. I know black is rather low key as a scheme, but I like things that are unflashy, and I have a particualr liking for non-metalic schemes on bikes and cars as well.
No doubt the rebuild, for that is what it will amount to will be documented as it progresses, and yes, I do imagine that the Carlton will seem easy work after the Raleigh, through the winter.
What is sad is exactly how much neglect the poor Raleigh has suffered. Only two years old and looks like it has never seen an oil can, or burnishing rag.
Everything is out of adjustment, and the gears make a horrendous din! All it needs is TLC, and it will run quietly, though nothing will alter the fact that it is a ton weight when considered next the Carlton!
I agree about the Carlton's Reynolds 501 tubing frame being just right to accept a good deal of energy when the mood hits for a bit of acceleration or hill climbing.
From work the first thing I have is a long if fairly gentle hill off the roundabout. I like to get onto top gear and really get it bowling up that hill so that at the top, I am going as fast as I can continue along the flat at the top. The bike positively invites an energetic approach, because it responds so nicely by getting faster or keeping good pace going up a bank without dropping gear or speed!
ATB from George
Posted on: 10 September 2009 by pcstockton
quote:Originally posted by GFFJ:
I shall produce a word doc, where the catalogue is arranged in pure composer alphabetic order, then divided according to work in cataloguing order [either opus or catalogue numbers] further divide my alphabetic ordering according to principle performer
George,
You MUST get "Directory lister Pro" software. This will look into your folders and create a list of files, folders, hierarchy etc... then you can dunp into excel and sort your heart away.
Posted on: 11 September 2009 by u5227470736789439
Party tonight!
This is the start. ATB from George
This is the start. ATB from George