92/90 Vs Nait 5?

Posted by: blythe on 17 February 2004

I've done a search for thoughts on 92/90 Vs Nait but can only find a comparison to the Nait 3.

Has anyone compared the 92/90 to a Nait 5 and if so, what did you think?

I'm looking for a friend who wants to buy a Naim amp to replace his Rotel budget amp.

Also, any idea what might be a fair price for say a 5 year old 92/90 combo?

Thanks, Martin.

Computers are supposed to work on 1's and 0's - in other words "Yes" or "No" - why does mine frequently say "Maybe"?......
Posted on: 17 February 2004 by Wolf
I started 3-4 years ago with that combination and liked it a lot. Then started the upgrade path. Why not start him with a 72 with 140 or so amp. Then he gets a better sound and it's not too expensive. I've tried to entice a couple friends with this ploy but they haven't bitten yet. Can't say what the costs would be as I'm in the US.

glenn

Life is analogue
Posted on: 17 February 2004 by blythe
quote:
Originally posted by Wolf:
I started 3-4 years ago with that combination and liked it a lot. Then started the upgrade path. Why not start him with a 72 with 140 or so amp. Then he gets a better sound and it's not too expensive. I've tried to entice a couple friends with this ploy but they haven't bitten yet. Can't say what the costs would be as I'm in the US.

glenn

Life is analogue

One trouble with the 72/140 which is indeed a great combo (I had that set-up myself) is no remote control. My friend's set-up is that the gear is up a few steps from the main listening area which is a pain if you need to adjust volume etc. Also, I imagine the 72/140 would be more expensive to buy than the 92/90

Computers are supposed to work on 1's and 0's - in other words "Yes" or "No" - why does mine frequently say "Maybe"?......
Posted on: 17 February 2004 by Nuno Baptista
I´ve got a Nait 5 and it perfoms well
It´s very good to drive most of speakers
My dealer told me that 90/92 isn´t so far from a Nait 3

MY system : Naim Nait 5 amplifier,Naim cd 5 ,Epos M 15 speakers,Naca5,FC2
Posted on: 17 February 2004 by miles
Hi Martin,

I have a Nait5 and think it is great. (still with your old Kans!) I have listened to 92/90 with my system and did prefer the Nait5. 92/90 bit rougher round the edges perhaps. From what I've heard a 92/90 is just a nait3 in two boxes but could be wrong there...

On the other hand, some people prefer the nait3 to 5 because it is more old Naim style whatever that means!

Not much help I'm afraid!

Regards,

Miles
Posted on: 17 February 2004 by Wolf
I forgot about the remote but not all 92s have that option. Make sure it does! When I upgraded I did realize how good the 92 was, much better than most of the trash out there for the price.

glenn

Life is analogue
Posted on: 17 February 2004 by bjorne
Blythe.

The Nait 3 is basically a nap 92/90. A better option might be to find a Nait3r and if possible a used flatcap1. I had that combo for a while and capping the Nait is very worthwhile imo. The preampsection of the remotecontrolled version is also a bit better.
Posted on: 17 February 2004 by airdavid
Bjorne said:
"...The preampsection of the remotecontrolled version is also a bit better."


Hallo,
could you tell me why it's better than normal version?
thanks,
bye
David
Posted on: 17 February 2004 by domfjbrown
A better quality (motorised) volume pot perhaps? My NAIT3 (non-R) pot is a bit unbalanced in the very bottom area of travel.

A 92/90 IS a NAIT3, but split - so should sound subtly better perhaps?

How much of an improvement is a Flatcap on the '3, and how much is the mod??? I have one on the CD5, but might buy a HiCap later in the year....

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Posted on: 17 February 2004 by blythe
quote:
Originally posted by miles:
Hi Martin,

I have a Nait5 and think it is great. (still with your old Kans!) I have listened to 92/90 with my system and did prefer the Nait5. 92/90 bit rougher round the edges perhaps. From what I've heard a 92/90 is just a nait3 in two boxes but could be wrong there...

On the other hand, some people prefer the nait3 to 5 because it is more old Naim style whatever that means!

Not much help I'm afraid!

Regards,

Miles


Hi Miles - pleased to hear that the old Kans are still working for you :-)
I still kind of miss them!

From what people have said so far, the Nait 5 isn't neccesarily all that much better then the 92/90, so subject to the price (and yes I was thinking of the "R" version) VFM might be best spent on the 92/90.
Again, having looked at old posts, the 92/90 does appear to be better than the Nait 3, which I personally think is a great amp for the money.

Please all readers, I am looking for an entry Naim system for a friend!!!!

Computers are supposed to work on 1's and 0's - in other words "Yes" or "No" - why does mine frequently say "Maybe"?......
Posted on: 18 February 2004 by domfjbrown
One thing - the NAIT5 is MUCH smoother than the NAIT3 (but with a CD5/Flatcap in my rig, I reckon using a NAIT5 would be too smooth) - that NAIT3's been a great buy for me Smile

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Or wonder, till it drives you mad,
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Posted on: 19 February 2004 by bjorne
quote:
Originally posted by airdavid:



Hallo,
could you tell me why it's better than normal version?
thanks,
bye
David

David, the 3r and nac92r have a slightly improved preampstage compared to the versions without remote control. The price difference between a Nait3 and a Nait3r were quite big, at least £150 if i remember correctly.
Posted on: 19 February 2004 by airdavid
The price difference between a Nait3 and a Nait3r was about 400 euros here in Italy,
regards
David
Posted on: 19 February 2004 by David Stewart
The big price difference (when new) between the Nait3 with and without the remote is the reason I bought mine w/o. At the time, my dealer told me there was no other difference between the two apart from the remote feature. So what is the truth here - does anybody have the definitive answer??

David
Posted on: 19 February 2004 by coredump
dom,
quote:
domfjbrown wrote:
How much of an improvement is a Flatcap on the '3, and how much is the mod??? I have one on the CD5, but might buy a HiCap later in the year....


I can't say anything about the FlatCap as I went for a HiCap straight away; but I can say that the addition of a decent PSU to the Nait3 makes a huge difference. In fact, I had to re-familiarize with the amp again as it sounded totally different. I tracked this down to its then much improved transparency.
Before the HiCap, any halfway decent CDP would be enough to get going; afterwards, your source is much more exposed and you'll soon enough start thinking about upgrading. Wink
(No, this does not apply in your case with your CD5, but the NAD CDP pretty soon proved to be below par, while the Michell deck really started to shine).

Best regards,

Oliver
Posted on: 19 February 2004 by bjorne
David, I have this from my dealer and also from at least 2 reviews I have read that the preampstage in the remotecontolled versions were improved. Strange..