Definitive versions. Original recording verses reworked release.

Posted by: JamieL on 27 January 2009

I have several recordings where artists have gone back to early compositions and either rerecorded them, or significantly remixed them.

In general I do find that I nearly always prefer the original version, even if it has bum notes, or dodgy equipment limiting the music. I like the character of the artist striving to achieve the sound. I am specifically thinking of studio recordings, not live reworkings which I feel are something quite different.

I am quite biased towards the sounds of certain instruments, and against others, particularly with keyboards, 70's Hammonds and Mellotrons I love, 80's DX7s I dislike. When Tangerine Dream released a box set in the early 90's where modern digital synth tracks were dubbed over analogue synth recordings I found it greatly detracted from the music, the two sounds did not belong together.

I am most aware of this with instrumental artists such as Mike Oldfield, Jean Michel Jarre, Tangerine Dream, etc.

I also have a few tracks where a vocal has been redubbed on a 'best of' album, and again I find that I am wedded to the original version.

That said, I am probably a bit obsessive about having a version that I consider definitive, as when I bought some albums on CD, that I had owned on vinyl, I found that sometimes I missed scratches that I had become accustomed to over the years.

There is one band who I do feel have greatly improved their tracks by re-recording them, and that is Kraftwerk, 'The Mix' I think is a fantastic album, but I am sure some find it a disappointment as I have found with the other artists I mention.

With Jazz or Classical music, there is probably a subtle difference as a definitive version is down to the interpretation of the performers, rather than a writer trying to achieve a recording of a new piece of music, although this does happen sometimes.

Do others have pieces of music that they feel have either been brought to life by a new recording, or feel that many re-recordings are pointless?
Posted on: 27 January 2009 by winkyincanada
I know what you mean about getting attached to the scratches. My original vinyl Abbey Road had a scratch/jump in it when it was given to me. "and in the middle of negotiations" had become "and in the middle of micturations". I still sing along using the "correct" lyrics today, even though I haven't heard my vinyl version in over 20 years.
Posted on: 27 January 2009 by Guido Fawkes
Atomic Rooster were kings of this idea. Vincent Crane recorded some songs with John Du-Cann, but then decided he didn't like him any more - I think because John had written Devil's Answer, which became a big hit and Vince resented it. So Vince edited out John's vocals and guitar and got somebody else in to play and sing and put those out on the record.

Later, of course, they were friends again. Now John wasn't on the debut or was he? Easily done, re-edit the Atomic R-o-oster and dub on John D on vocals and guitar.

I'm totally confused as to who plays what on In The Hearing of ... nonetheless it remains one of my favourite records.

ATB Rotf
Posted on: 27 January 2009 by Guido Fawkes
Let It Be ... Naked is my favourite re-make - great idea to axe the dreadful Phil Spector production.

Now if only somebody could look at the Genesis back catalogue and do Foxtrot ... Naked Big Grin
Posted on: 27 January 2009 by winkyincanada
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Originally posted by ROTF:
Let It Be ... Naked is my favourite re-make - great idea to axe the dreadful Phil Spector production.

Now if only somebody could look at the Genesis back catalogue and do Foxtrot ... Naked Big Grin


Totally agree. I much prefer the stripped-down version.

I heard that Van Morrison was re-recording Astral Weeks as a live album. That might be interesting.
Posted on: 27 January 2009 by Chief Chirpa
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Originally posted by JamieL:

There is one band who I do feel have greatly improved their tracks by re-recording them, and that is Kraftwerk, 'The Mix' I think is a fantastic album, but I am sure some find it a disappointment as I have found with the other artists I mention.



I've got to say I'm not a huge fan of The Mix, though it's an interesting way of making a kind of 'best of'. Though The Robots, Computerlove and Pocket Calculator/Dentaku are excellent (and more or less how they are when they tour), some of the later tracks are shocking.

On a related topic, last year I managed to get a (free) copy of The Catalogue - the remastered Kraftwerk albums from Autobahn onwards, scheduled for release as a cd box set in 2004, though still only available as promo copies. This is something of a revelation the first time you hear them all, and really cleans up some of the earlier albums in particular. Even though I'm fairly certain nothing's re-recorded, and I haven't played my originals even once since hearing the remasters, Radio-Activity in particular seems better to me than it ever used to.

Probably not worth the £300 The Catalogue typically goes for though. : )
Posted on: 05 February 2009 by steve61
quote:
Originally posted by munch:
The Beatles remasters are the best i have heard for years.
The Love album was fantastic but a bit like Stars on 45 with the tracks going into eachother.
That said its one of the best works done over the last few years.
But what is coming will out sell every chart album/ download/there is on the planet..
When the first four remasterd albums(Not in the original order of the first four though) hit the streets,Not long to go.
They will out sell anything else on the market today.
Vinyl and cd.
And hold the number one slot for sales for a year or more.
Munch


Any Idea when Munch