282/200

Posted by: KCL on 27 July 2005

Hello

Just going to pick up these babies and try them with my CDX2. Will let you all know how it goes! Big Grin
Posted on: 28 July 2005 by KCL
Up and running! WOW! is all that can be said for now.

I do not have space for the NAPSC for now, so it is sitting on the floor. I am told this is not ideal! Will have to find a better place for it then.

Anyone else out there who have this combination?
Posted on: 28 July 2005 by ClaudeP
Congratulations KCL!

I don't personally have this combination, but I gave it a good listening a year ago and I agree: it really sounds great.

By the way, my 102 has a NAPSC that has been sitting comfortably on the floor for 2 years now. I tried to put it on a shelf but honestly couldn't hear the difference.

Until you find out what works best for you, just sit down and enjoy the music!
Posted on: 28 July 2005 by custard
Keep the napsc on the floor well out the way of everything else as it is a noisy peice of equipment that may interfere with other components if placed to close to them.
Posted on: 28 July 2005 by PS
quote:
Keep the napsc on the floor


....I agree, best place for it.
Posted on: 28 July 2005 by ColinJ
I have the same combo and when it's warmed up a bit your WOW should get bigger.

Are you running it through a power supply or off the 200?
Posted on: 28 July 2005 by KCL
ClaudeP: Thanks. I will.

custard & PS: aye aye leave NAPSC where it is.

ColinJ: Unfortunately could not buy a Hicap after the initial spend, so running of the amp for now. Frown. In time Smile
Posted on: 28 July 2005 by KCL
By the way, anyone notice a soft hiss from the tweeters when iddling (i.e. when there is no music). This hiss does not change with volume or balance tweeking or input change for that matter. Never noticed it that much with the Nait. I suppose, bigger amp etc, so can hear it more. I am having fun rediscovering my cd collection, never noticed how much detail there is till now. Yeaaah! Smile
Posted on: 28 July 2005 by Vik
Enjoy! This the classic combination that bridges Naim's entry level with the high end. I'd always loved the 82/180 and the 282/200 builds on that.

For smallish rooms the 202 is adequate and the detail from the 282 can stress such rooms. But 282 is definitely recommended for mid sized rooms and larger speakers. The 282/hicap/250 is even better, if the room can take it; world-class hi-fi with nothing significant to criticise.

Minimum 5.5m pr run of the A5 please.
Posted on: 28 July 2005 by kuma
quote:
Minimum 5.5m pr run of the A5 please.



Thought it was a minimum 3.5 m?
I'm sure longer is better for the amp, tho.
Posted on: 28 July 2005 by Vik
- exactly, 3.5 for safety's sake, 5.5 upwards for greater fluidity -
Posted on: 29 July 2005 by KCL
I am informed by my dealer that 3.5m is definitely the minimum he would go as recommended by naim. Having said that, there is a feeling/rumour that the new black boxes are more tollerant of lenght than the olive ones. The new boxes are also more tollerant of other cable makers but not kimber I think.

Why mess around with other makers when naim NACA5 sound so good anyway and way cheaper per run. Winker
Posted on: 29 July 2005 by KCL
Oh how are they sounding?

Fabulous still. Though I wish I had more time in the day to listen to them. You know need to live etc so I cannot wait till later in year when I can take sometime off! Big Grin
Posted on: 04 August 2005 by KCL
My enjoyment took a hit, got the flu you see. So ears got blocked and the enjoyment till then came to a crashing halt! Pity really as the combo really started to sing you know what I mean.

Nevermind, only a temporary glitch! Razz
Posted on: 04 August 2005 by KCL
Question to the you all!

I want to get a power supply for the 282. Am thinking of either a flat cap 2x with its dual power supply and connecting this to the 282 much like a supercap. Has anyone tried this?

Judging from the replies at this forum, Hicap or 2 will be better but that is 4 times the dosh! Supercap was entertained but really, with a 282, I do not believe that the full potential of a supercap will be utilised. Good though if you want to go to a 252 soon, but not for me, at this juncture in time.
Posted on: 04 August 2005 by Chayro
I'm not sure you would gain that much, if anything, with a FC2x over powering with your 200. I would just go for the single HC. BTW, after you get used to the 200 and know how it sounds, check out the 250 and see if it moves you. The 250 has a great drive and a warmer tonality, imo. Speak to your dealer about an upgrade path. Some dealers will allow you a full trade if you upgrade within a certain time frame. It's really cool to audition the next level after you've listened to the other model for a couple of months because you can really zero in on the differences and see if they matter to you.
Posted on: 04 August 2005 by Edouard
quote:
I would just go for the single HC.


Seconded!
KCL, your 282 is a highend pre and well deserve a HiCap!
Posted on: 05 August 2005 by Peter Chappell NZ
I think the FC2 has different specs in the two feeds - designed for CD & Preamp - and would be unbalanced feeding the 2 halves of an 82/282 separately ... suggest you check before!
Posted on: 05 August 2005 by Jay
quote:
Originally posted by Peter Chappell NZ:
I think the FC2 has different specs in the two feeds - designed for CD & Preamp - and would be unbalanced feeding the 2 halves of an 82/282 separately ... suggest you check before!


Peter is absolutely correct. Do not connect both flatcap2 outputs to an 82/282.
Posted on: 07 August 2005 by KCL
I was only kiddin, never serious anyway. When able my next move will be the active route! Big Grin
Posted on: 07 August 2005 by KCL
Having said that, it is cooking!!!!!!!.

WOW WOW!

Big Grin
Posted on: 08 August 2005 by Chayro
I don't think there's any question that your next move should be to hicap that 282. Powering it from the 200 does not even begin to tap its full potential. Run in the stuff for about 5-8 weeks and then go to your dealer and demo the 282/200 with and without the cap to see for yourself.
Posted on: 08 August 2005 by Mabelode, King of Swords
quote:
Originally posted by KCL:
By the way, anyone notice a soft hiss from the tweeters when iddling (i.e. when there is no music). This hiss does not change with volume or balance tweeking or input change for that matter.

I noticed this exact same hiss when I started using my 282/250.2. Furthermore, my 282 is powered by a Hicap, which should produce a very small amount of noise. I asked my dealer about it, and he said it was normal. But I can't help thinking that if the hiss is there when music isn't being played, it's also there when it is, and must obscure (extremely) fine detail.

Anyway I've learned to ignore it. When I'm not using the system, I put it on mute because I don't like the idea of my speakers' tweeters hissing non-stop for years on end.

Steve
Posted on: 08 August 2005 by Geoff P
quote:
But I can't help thinking that if the hiss is there when music isn't being played, it's also there when it is, and must obscure (extremely) fine detail.
Steve.... since we are talking ear against the speaker to hear the hiss (I hope) the fine detail you might miss would also require your ears to be up against the speaker.

From where you sit you should not be able to hear it so if there is silence in between the notes on a CD it should sound like deep black silence from the listening chair.

regards
GEOFF
Posted on: 08 August 2005 by u5227470736789439
A thought! Ever been to a Concert where the only noise was the music?

Another thought. Have you ever heard a 78 record (rather than a transfer) reproduced directly, either on electric or accoustic set?

The point is that there is always ambient disturbance, which is far louder than the slight hiss (noise) electronic amplification produces. It is the least of your problems, for sure!

Fredrik