Eugenics

Earwicker

Are you serious? I applaud your subtle humour if you're not.

But in case you are serious could you please expand on your notion of the "qualified panel" and who might qualify to be a member?

I'm also interested to know what you think is "wrong" with the people pushing the prams.

Deane

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Originally posted by Deane F:
Earwicker

Are you serious? I applaud your subtle humour if you're not.

But in case you are serious could you please expand on your notion of the "qualified panel" and who might qualify to be a member?

I'm also interested to know what you think is "wrong" with the people pushing the prams.

Deane

I'm AM taking the mickey, of course mate.

I'm tired and off to bed, it's just that (I'm 28 now) and meeting up with the folks I was at school with tonight, and - nothing political - but no word of a lie, all the clever, bright and talented kids my age have a grand total of ZERO kids, and all the headbangers, morons and druts... well, how many zeros do you want after a one?

My thread title sounds nasty and I don't mean any hurt to anyone, but I can't help noticing an inverse relationship between brains and fecundity.

So one wonders what the future holds.

28! Crikey, I had you down for 45!

"So one wonders what the future holds"

Well if you are into Eugenics before 30, in 10 years you'll probably be on a spectrum somewhere between bad tempered letters to the Telelgraph and invading Poland.

Matthew

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but no word of a lie, all the clever, bright and talented kids my age have a grand total of ZERO kids,

Maybe they think life is to short to waste it on pampers and a weekend in disneyland.
A lot people consider the fact that at 20 the natural step ahead is to get someone with a job and make a pair of children.
Why?
Because you have to.
Life is too boring for them and a good way to fill it is to create some problems to care about.
But those problems must be something very common, so you have something to tell to others like you.
Somebody asked why so many divorces?
Is it when people wake up and get bored of the game?
Why children are growin so angry?
Because they, at age of 16, are older and more mature then their parents, but have no voice in future.
The more sad thing is that a lot of them are really clever but will get soffocated by stupid genitors.
I don't have numbers to read but i hope they are not the majority.

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Originally posted by Earwicker:

Just a thought. I was out in town today and couldn't help noticing that the wrong people were pushing the prams.

This is definitely a problem local to Stoke on Trent!

Nime

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Originally posted by Nime:

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Originally posted by Earwicker:

Just a thought. I was out in town today and couldn't help noticing that the wrong people were pushing the prams.

This is definitely a problem local to Stoke on Trent!

Nime

It is a problem in Stoke-on-Trent, but hardly unique to it, sad to say. It is probably a world-wide phenomenon, now that contraception is so reliable.

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Originally posted by Earwicker:

It is a problem in Stoke-on-Trent, but hardly unique to it, sad to say. It is probably a world-wide phenomenon, now that contraception is so reliable.

I tried. God knows I tried!

"A problem local to Stoke on Trent?"
Alternative meanings of the same sentence?

Anybody want to spell it out for him?
Suit yourselves.

Nime

Okay you're losing me Nime, but think about what I said. And next time you're out in town of a Saturday you'll see for yourself.

EW

If you can correctly score the IQ of an adult, child or baby just by looking at them it won't be long before you're a millionaire. If by the same measurement you can then go on to guage their future prospects and use to society, I expect you'll also have world domination to add to your considerable wealth.

Now that's something worth aiming for. Sounds like you're half way there. What about educationally subnormal and/or disabled? Or anyone over 70?

Of course, once you've identified all this useless (by your estimation) dross, what do you do about it? Is stopping them from breeding enouth? Or would you be looking for a more final solution?

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Originally posted by HTK:
If you can correctly score the IQ of an adult, child or baby just by looking at them it won't be long before you're a millionaire. If by the same measurement you can then go on to guage their future prospects and use to society, I expect you'll also have world domination to add to your considerable wealth.

Now that's something worth aiming for. Sounds like you're half way there. What about educationally subnormal and/or disabled? Or anyone over 70?

Of course, once you've identified all this useless (by your estimation) dross, what do you do about it? Is stopping them from breeding enouth? Or would you be looking for a more final solution?

I take your point, but you're overreacting to what I said.

I am saying that clever people don't breed anymore. And - and it's only an observation, not a law of physics - morons breed like it's some kind of contest. Usually when they're far too thick and immature to give their kids a proper chance.

All I'm saying is that this bodes ill.

EW

oldie.
and they say the "banned ones" are no loss>

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Originally posted by oldie:


oldie.
and they say the "banned ones" are no loss>

Golly, this IS getting subtle...!

Let's look at this then:
You see "the wrong sort of person" and assume that any children they may have will be "the wrong sort of person" too, so you prevent them from being born, because presumably you have a reason. So you prevent a life because you have no hope for them. If you have no hope for them, then you have no hope or faith in mankind. In that case you cannot ever positively contribute to the world with that attitude. Are you then "the wrong sort of person" yourself and should have been prevented from being born? No. But you may be proven wrong one day by a kid who breaks the cycle and strikes out to achieve great things, and then you take note, change your view, and they have suddenly given you something you didn't have before; faith in mankind. Now..wasn't that worth it? You have personally benefitted from those you had previously written off. Everyone is here for a reason, and the reasons are not always obvious. We need everyone to define ourselves . And that goes in all directions.

I have a feeling that the reason we are all here today is down to the reasons that Earwicker is not comfortable with. Particularly in the colonies.

Lomo

Well observed and succinctly put.

Cheers
Deane

Ahhh Eugenics, the last bastion of an egotistical mind. Churchill would've been proud!

I'm all for breeding mothers-in law out of the human gene pool.

Nime

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Originally posted by Nime:
I'm all for breeding mothers-in law out of the human gene pool.
Nime

There goes your wife - (if you are married).

Surely there has to be a way round this inherited problem?

I can see a Nobel prize in the offing for the scientist who manages to pull it off.

Nime

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Originally posted by Earwicker:
Just a thought. I was out in town today and couldn't help noticing that the wrong people were pushing the prams.

But from an evolutionary point of view surely this illustrates that the 'right people' are not as fit as you had assumed.

Regards
Steve M

Who is the greater success:
The middle class kid who wanted for nothing and has been bank-rolled by parents through college to a job in the city without much personal effort?
Or..
The kid brought up by a junkie mother, encouraged to steal at an early age, never taken to school and generally discarded, but grows up to break away and make a decent simple life with a job, family and become a good parent without any personal example?
I know who I would consider to be the greater achiever. You don't need to look to the high flyers to find the heroes.
Also Earwicker, you seem to assume that you are talking to people here of a similar social standing to yourself and that there are no "wrong sort of people" here.
I dispair of what I see on the street sometimes too, and I don't know that anyone can honestly say that they don't ever.

So your point then, Earwicker, is that stupid , irresponsible people tend to make stupid irresponsible decisions about when to have children.

Crikey!

Matthew

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Originally posted by Rasher:

Also Earwicker, you seem to assume that you are talking to people here of a similar social standing to yourself and that there are no "wrong sort of people" here.

Earwicker lives in Stoke, he is what he condemns!

(This is a local forum for local people, we'll have no trouble here)

I know Stoke Newington !!! if that's any good ?


Fritz Von Bramming the Stoker

I was at the Cotswold Wildlife Park on Saturday. There were loads of young children in prams being pushed by their 'big sisters'. But what I was really struck by was the almost complete absence of fat kids. Where were they all? After all there's supposed to be a childhood obesity epidemic.

Paul