NS01 ?

Also doesn't have the quality analogue stage of the HDX...

I'm not sure if the App is working on the NS01 - one would think so though hey...Was the v1.5 software upgrade also 100% compatible with the NS range..?

I think you're right James - have a feeling we will see more NS machines in the equation, now linked up with the DAC - as far as I can see, if you using the digital out of the NS then it will be 'exactly' the same machine as the HDX - and as for PS upgrades, well that goes on the DAC anyhow....

I recently had a good offer on a ex-demo NS01 - but passed on it as it was pre 1.5 software: Until I see with my own eyes the software with all the features I consider necessary and present, I wasn't prepared to gamble (or wait) it would 'come'...

Steve.

p.s. Personally, I prefer the NS03, as you get the screen - something I would find useful when you're close to the rack....It's still cheaper than the HDX.

I guess it all depends if the end user is definitely going to pair with the DAC or not - if not, then I guess the analogue stage of the HDX becomes more or a factor in the choice...?

An NS01 is a great, slightly cheaper way to get Naim hard-disk player performance, especially if you decide to use it with the DAC and the HDX Remote iPhone app. We've got a couple retailers selling this combo right now with great success. Same 1.5a software works on HDX / NS01 / NS02 / NS03.

James, the reports are that the digital out from the NS01 is equivalent to the HDX, not so with the analog stages.

I posted a while ago that if the DAC were available back then or if I were deciding now, obviously based on a demo, that if equivalent I would have gone with the NS01 and saved some $$.

While the user screen of the HDX is nice I use it only for trouble shooting purposes if there is an issue controlling the HDX from either the IPUI or DTC. Furthermore, with the DAC, you don't need the better analog output stage of the HDX or the ability to hook up a PSU since it goes n the DAC.

With the new itouch/iphone software or a small netbook PC this is the way to go. I use an old tablet pc that we no longer needed in the office.

The only other option right now is the new Uniti serve and in that case you'd need to demo (when available June/July??? to determine which is the more capable source. I would suspect the NS01, but that's what we've got ears for.

Do the NS machines and the HDX share the exact same CD transport mech..? If so, I'm presuming the ripping would be exactly the same...??

SC,

yes, the transport and ripping are the same.

Thanks Richard.

So, NS-01 or -02 into SuperNait DAC with HiCap would be same quality as HDX into same, albeit without the display. Both controllable by i-Touch/Phone App. Any other downsides?
What about connection to existing music on NAS?
Can't seem to find NaimNet price list - any pointers here?
Jim

Although there seem to have been reports that the analogue out from the HDX into the SN is a better combo than dig out using SN's DAC.

John

Indeed, the DACs in the HDX and SN are the same...To quote Naim:

"The DAC is the same Burr Brown component as used in the SUPERNAIT....the HDX employs analogue output stages derived from the NAC 552 with relay switched RCA and DIN output options."

My gut feeling, given the above, is that the analogue out from the HDX would be the better way to go in the context of the SN...?

So I may as well stick with the MacBook or Apple tv as a source...??

I'm waiting for my NS-01 at the moment. I'll be adding an NNP-01 as my amplification, my source and amp will be connected not via DIN or Coax out but with ethernet cables via a router. Really can't wait, very excited about having something so different from my previous set up of CDX2/202/HCP/200/Allae (which was of course was incredible!). Control will be via my laptop or an iPhone. Other sources like vinyl will go straight into the pre/interface inputs on the NNP-01, then there'll be what is an incredibly short signal path to the 200/250 section inside. Cheers all!

We have been enjoying the NS01/NNP01 in store as well...driving some rega RS7's...the NNP01 has incredible boogy and control..

I take it there is local volume control (analogue or digital domain ?) within the NNP01 ? - Whats the spec of the amp - 200 type or what ?

rgds

James

Slightly beefier NAP200 / SUPERNAIT circuit.

Thanks David - never much of a mention of it on here but sounds an interesting device. I take it you could use this and an NS01, connect via Ethernet and control all functions via an Ipod Touch ?

James

So am I right in thinking that you could use the NS01 and the NNP01 in a non distributed set up without having a pre-amp involved at all?
Set up would be

NS01 to NDAC to NNP01

I have less and less use for my 252. Essentially a very expensive volume knob and for some sources not even that.

quote:

NS01 to NDAC to NNP01

You wouldnt need the nDac - if i'm reading this correctly then you stay in the digital domain until the NNP01 DAC and volume control. Not as good as the Naim DAC, but an interesting two box solution ?

James

quote:

Originally posted by oldnaim:
So, NS-01 or -02 into SuperNait DAC with HiCap would be same quality as HDX into same, albeit without the display. Both controllable by i-Touch/Phone App. Any other downsides?
What about connection to existing music on NAS?
Can't seem to find NaimNet price list - any pointers here?
Jim

It's not as good. Using the same DAC chip doesn't make them exactly the same and not needing an SPdif connection is an advantage to the HDX. The unique SPdif solution in the NDAC plus it's general goodness overcomes this.

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Originally posted by james n:

quote:

NS01 to NDAC to NNP01

You wouldnt need the nDac - if i'm reading this correctly then you stay in the digital domain until the NNP01 DAC and volume control. Not as good as the Naim DAC, but an interesting two box solution ?

James

...and you need not have them in the same room. Control via iLinX on the iPod touch / iPhone and you're set.

The power amp section in the NNP01 is really quite good and I'd be perfectly fine with it as an only option.

Is the NS01 any noisier than the current HDX?