Getting my HDX connected
Posted by: Bruce Woodhouse on 07 February 2009
I've got a new HDX on test but I'm having difficulty connecting to the laptop. The laptop is connected to the web and I have the HDX connected to the laptop LAN port.
The Desktop Client does not seem to be able to find the HDX, but the IP tool software can, so some 2 way communication is taking place.
The LAN network status symbol on the laptop is showing 'limited or no connectivity' and a warning symbol. I have tried to 'repair the connection' but this seems to fail.
I have an airport express coming which I hope will sort this out by using the wireless connection and I'll have the option of a direct connection to the hub soon too but can anyone help out in the meantime?
Be nice to me, I know squit about networks. (This may be obvious already of course...)
Bruce
The Desktop Client does not seem to be able to find the HDX, but the IP tool software can, so some 2 way communication is taking place.
The LAN network status symbol on the laptop is showing 'limited or no connectivity' and a warning symbol. I have tried to 'repair the connection' but this seems to fail.
I have an airport express coming which I hope will sort this out by using the wireless connection and I'll have the option of a direct connection to the hub soon too but can anyone help out in the meantime?
Be nice to me, I know squit about networks. (This may be obvious already of course...)
Bruce
Posted on: 07 February 2009 by jon h
quote:Originally posted by Bruce Woodhouse:
The laptop is connected to the web
Bruce
how? usb cable to adsl modem?
Posted on: 07 February 2009 by Bruce Woodhouse
Wireless to the broadband hub
Bruce
Bruce
Posted on: 07 February 2009 by AV@naim
Er can you do that??
Effectivly you have a wireless and wired network fighting each other. They are two seperate devices inside the laptop
Normally you'd connect the HDX to router and then browse DTC from laptop via wireless.
Also, you should be looking at the public download area for information regarding DTC and general networking issues regarding HDX
http://www.naimaudio.com/download
Effectivly you have a wireless and wired network fighting each other. They are two seperate devices inside the laptop
Normally you'd connect the HDX to router and then browse DTC from laptop via wireless.
Also, you should be looking at the public download area for information regarding DTC and general networking issues regarding HDX
http://www.naimaudio.com/download
Posted on: 07 February 2009 by Bruce Woodhouse
OK. It is not working anyway so I'll just get on with listening and sort the connection when the right bits and bobs arrive.
Be patient Bruce!
Be patient Bruce!
Posted on: 07 February 2009 by David Dever
If you're running Windows Vista or Windows 7, make sure that you are running the application in Administrator mode (create shortcut on Desktop and right-click to select).
Start with a hard-wired connection first–if everything works as expected, then move to wireless....
Start with a hard-wired connection first–if everything works as expected, then move to wireless....
Posted on: 07 February 2009 by AV@naim
I must add that:
a) Windows 7 is not yet supported, as its a beta still (although it's really Vista with a ballgown on)
b) Vista. To be completly anal, really users should adjust program access rights properly, rather than setting "Admin" mode (full access rights), which is technically "dangerous" security-wise. For most domestic use, the above will suffice.
a) Windows 7 is not yet supported, as its a beta still (although it's really Vista with a ballgown on)
b) Vista. To be completly anal, really users should adjust program access rights properly, rather than setting "Admin" mode (full access rights), which is technically "dangerous" security-wise. For most domestic use, the above will suffice.
Posted on: 07 February 2009 by David Dever
Agreed-and to be completely anal, I actually run all of my Windows images under VMware on a Mac!
Initial impressions of Windows 7 seem to indicate that most network apps are significantly faster, including the NaimNet Set IP tool and DigiLinX Dealer Setup 2.4.
Initial impressions of Windows 7 seem to indicate that most network apps are significantly faster, including the NaimNet Set IP tool and DigiLinX Dealer Setup 2.4.
Posted on: 07 February 2009 by garyi
Hi bruce, I think the issue is the HDX cannot get a IPaddress directly from your laptop. Its most likely your laptop is getting an IP address from the router.
Computers like things just so, as a result they all need an individual identification in networks, this is called the IP address.
For this to be a sucess you have a couple of options. The most common and on by default in almost all home routers is DHCP. This dishes out individual IP addresses to all devices on the network, weather it be your laptop, an airport express or the HDX.
For it to work all devices need to be connected to the router either through a switch or directly.
In order to get up and running today you need to run an ethernet lead from the back of your router to the HDX. Turn on the HDX once you have connected it to the router.
It will be given an IP address by the router and your laptop will now be able to communicate with it, thus: wirelessley to the router, then from the router down the wire to the HDX.
ONce you express arrives you can set this as a wireless bridge, basically you would then be communicating thus: laptop wirelessly to the router then router wirelessly to the express then express via ethernet wire to the HDX.
I hope this was clear.
Computers like things just so, as a result they all need an individual identification in networks, this is called the IP address.
For this to be a sucess you have a couple of options. The most common and on by default in almost all home routers is DHCP. This dishes out individual IP addresses to all devices on the network, weather it be your laptop, an airport express or the HDX.
For it to work all devices need to be connected to the router either through a switch or directly.
In order to get up and running today you need to run an ethernet lead from the back of your router to the HDX. Turn on the HDX once you have connected it to the router.
It will be given an IP address by the router and your laptop will now be able to communicate with it, thus: wirelessley to the router, then from the router down the wire to the HDX.
ONce you express arrives you can set this as a wireless bridge, basically you would then be communicating thus: laptop wirelessly to the router then router wirelessly to the express then express via ethernet wire to the HDX.
I hope this was clear.
Posted on: 08 February 2009 by Roy Donaldson
Bruce,
You need to get the cable from the HDX into the back of the wireless hub directly.
Think of the wireless hub as the centre of your network. It controls everything that is going on.
So, for things to work, the hub has to give everyone an address (IP Address) so they all know who they are and can then use these addresses to speak to other devices.
Your laptop is speaking to the hub over wireless and so the hub has given it an address. If you connect your HDX into the back of the laptop, it doesn't know what to do, as it's not connected to the hub.
So, you need to connect the HDX directly into the Hub and best to just do this with a long cable to begin with. Then it will get an address from the hub and be able to get to the internet and the HDX software on the laptop will be able to connect to the HDX as well.
Roy.
You need to get the cable from the HDX into the back of the wireless hub directly.
Think of the wireless hub as the centre of your network. It controls everything that is going on.
So, for things to work, the hub has to give everyone an address (IP Address) so they all know who they are and can then use these addresses to speak to other devices.
Your laptop is speaking to the hub over wireless and so the hub has given it an address. If you connect your HDX into the back of the laptop, it doesn't know what to do, as it's not connected to the hub.
So, you need to connect the HDX directly into the Hub and best to just do this with a long cable to begin with. Then it will get an address from the hub and be able to get to the internet and the HDX software on the laptop will be able to connect to the HDX as well.
Roy.
Posted on: 08 February 2009 by Bruce Woodhouse
Cheers guys. I do understand now.
I'll be getting the connectuons sorted this week but it is not hampering a very intresting experience with the device. I'd forgotten how running in makes such a difference to Naim kit, and that it is not a linear process, in the last 48 hours I swear it has sounded better and worse and better again!
I might post a detailed review vs my CDS3 (and perhaps with/without XPS) when things have settled down if people are interested. It is a long time since I altered anything in my HiFi and tried to analyse what In was hearing.
Bruce
I'll be getting the connectuons sorted this week but it is not hampering a very intresting experience with the device. I'd forgotten how running in makes such a difference to Naim kit, and that it is not a linear process, in the last 48 hours I swear it has sounded better and worse and better again!
I might post a detailed review vs my CDS3 (and perhaps with/without XPS) when things have settled down if people are interested. It is a long time since I altered anything in my HiFi and tried to analyse what In was hearing.
Bruce
Posted on: 08 February 2009 by rega1
quote:Originally posted by garyi:
Hi bruce, I think the issue is the HDX cannot get a IPaddress directly from your laptop. Its most likely your laptop is getting an IP address from the router.
Computers like things just so, as a result they all need an individual identification in networks, this is called the IP address.
For this to be a sucess you have a couple of options. The most common and on by default in almost all home routers is DHCP. This dishes out individual IP addresses to all devices on the network, weather it be your laptop, an airport express or the HDX.
For it to work all devices need to be connected to the router either through a switch or directly.
In order to get up and running today you need to run an ethernet lead from the back of your router to the HDX. Turn on the HDX once you have connected it to the router.
It will be given an IP address by the router and your laptop will now be able to communicate with it, thus: wirelessley to the router, then from the router down the wire to the HDX.
ONce you express arrives you can set this as a wireless bridge, basically you would then be communicating thus: laptop wirelessly to the router then router wirelessly to the express then express via ethernet wire to the HDX.
I hope this was clear.
excellent description and help. Cheers to you sir.
rega1
Posted on: 09 February 2009 by u5227470736789454
quote:I might post a detailed review vs my CDS3 (and perhaps with/without XPS) when things have settled down if people are interested.
Hi Bruce,
I would certainly be interested, at the moment I have a cd5x but am seriously considering the move to an HDX.
Barrie
Posted on: 09 February 2009 by Bruce Woodhouse
Connected fine and funky now with the Airport Express,
Cheers
Bruce
(I have another HDX query but thought it best to start another thread for that)
Cheers
Bruce
(I have another HDX query but thought it best to start another thread for that)
Posted on: 09 February 2009 by dave marshall
quote:Originally posted by Bruce Woodhouse:
I might post a detailed review vs my CDS3 (and perhaps with/without XPS) when things have settled down if people are interested.
Bruce
Hi Bruce,
Next month, I'm doing a comparative demo of CDS3 v HDX v my present CDX2, with 555ps, so I'd be very interested to hear your views on how things sounded.
You can get my email from my profile if you want to pass on your thoughts.
Regards,
Dave.