Sound Organisation table

Posted by: Alco on 04 July 2002

Hi Y'all,

After checking out the 'Corras' (bedroom)table at IKEA, I decided to forget about it.
In the end I found it too high, and they were in 4 different feneers but none of 'em to my liking.
(and I also wanted to do the 'right' thing instead of the 'cheapest alternative'.)

Checking out this forum and having seen some system pictures of forum members (Andrew Randle,Rob Holt,etc), I came across the old Sound-Organisation table.

To make a long story short... I want one!

They seem to be great bang for the bucks and I even like the looks of it. Even though they're not finished in beautifl luxureous cherry or maple feneer like say a Quadraspire, I like the simplicity of the SO tables.

And another thing: These days many HiFi support manufacturers seem to think that people own a system of at least 4 component.
I only need a small,rigid but light, two/three shelf rack.
(and I hate those glass/iron framed racks)

So,I guess that one of those classic SO tables are the perfect support for my little Nait-2/CDX setup.

Unfortunately,....It also seems that SO doesn't make this table anymore. (nowadays they only make those horrible glossy 4 to 5 shelve supports)

Is there anybody who know's a dealer/person who want's to ged rid of it? big grin roll eyes

btw: What would a s/h SO table have to cost ?
(would P&P be very expensive when sent from, for example UK to Holland?)

Greetings,
Alco smile
Posted on: 06 July 2002 by Justin
it's better lit.

Judd
Posted on: 06 July 2002 by garyi
Guys, I have the basic Archidee stand in the garage if any one wants it.

Its as the above picture but alas no longer has the shelve or the 8mm spikes required. So if you have 8 8mm spikes and a shelf you are welcome to it.

I ain't sending to anyone though, If you want it, its your free but you collect.
Posted on: 06 July 2002 by Mike Sae
james mcp-

Thanks.

Honest questions:

If one of the nuts is slightly too tight or too loose (or loosens over time) does the whole thing go out of whack?

When the glass no longer rattles and is "in tune" is there a need to tune it even further? ISTR there was a very small threshold whereby one could adjust a spike and get different "pings". I tuned them so they "ponnnggg". Is this ok?



As I said elsewhere, the area where I have the most trouble is the Soundstage going into the carpet. The carpet is stiff and thick- doing the old "corner rock till it stops rocking" doesn't work here, as the frame itself flexes since the spikes tend to sit on the carpet. I've since punched some unsightly holes into the carpet so the spikes can penetrate, however it's impossible to tell for sure if it's true. If anything, the rack doesn't wobble at all.

[This message was edited by Mike Sae on SATURDAY 06 July 2002 at 20:27.]
Posted on: 07 July 2002 by garyi
With all the suggested tweaking required with mana, does any one with it get time to listen to music? roll eyes
Posted on: 07 July 2002 by Alco
Hi guys,

Well, I haven't tried or bought anything yet, and I absolutely understand that an Ikea table or an old SO table won't be as good as, for example, a Mana, QS Ref, or a Fraim, but as Marco put it right:

-I don't have (and don't wanna save up for it) the cash to get me a Fraim.
-Mana is too hard to get,way too ugly imho, and also way above mu budget.

But,...(don't laugh) I suddenly remembered I had this small iron table laying around in a spare bedroom, with two pinewood shelves, . (which can be replaced for some MDF boards)
It was hidden under a big pile of HiFi magazines.

Originaly it had 4 castors eek under it,so I took those of right away. It's a little wider then a SO table, but for now it offers a welcome alternative to my SF 'Tripod' rack.
And...ok, it doesn't sound any better then the Tripod rack, but not any worse either!
(to my surprise really!) I did place a TT isolation platform underneath the CDX.

So, for now I think it's an aestheticly pleasing system support which cost me zilch,nothing,nada!

Ofcourse I'll still keep my eyes open for better in the near future, but for now it'll do fine! smile

o,here's a little pic (kinda poor quality though)

Greetings,
Alco

[This message was edited by Alco on SUNDAY 07 July 2002 at 11:41.]
Posted on: 07 July 2002 by Alco
hmmm, I don't understand why I couldn't ad a bigger version of this picture.

It's very small, but as soon as I wanted to place a slightly bigger picture I got the message that my picutre exceeds the max kb.
(bull, I have placed bigger pics before!)

Why is it that I first have to reduce a pic to 'stamp' size before I can place it ?
(I don't recall it was ever like before)

hmmm,o well You can't have it all,eh

Greetings,
Alco
Posted on: 07 July 2002 by Mick P
Marco / James mcp

Quote..You should learn to rid yourself of the mentality that says adjusting or optimising the performance of hi-fi equipment is somehow 'anorakish' because (in moderation) it certainly is not.

When you write in 10 times daily......it is

Regards

Mick
Posted on: 07 July 2002 by Greg Beatty
...nice pic and you made a very sane and reasonable choice.

Enjoy your Naim!

- GregB

Insert Witty Signature Line Here
Posted on: 07 July 2002 by Prince Of Softies
On Sunday at 10:22 james mcp said:

"I check all the glass once a week or so."

But by 11:49 the same day had thankfully edged nearer to the rest of humanity by saying:

"Once done, you can forget it."

Presumably the result of a hearty breakfast or a slap round the face with a wet kipper from a concerned loved one.

Walter
Posted on: 07 July 2002 by Mick P
Marco

I may have to reconsider inviting you to a pheasant shoot.

I am begining to feel that allowing a 12 bore toting, born again Manaphile, within shooting distance of my posterior is a high risk strategy.

Regards

Mick
Posted on: 07 July 2002 by Ron The Mon
I agree with Greg. IMO, I think your stand looks better than Mana, QS, and SO. How much did it cost you again?
BTW, are the bottom "spikes" what is left over from removing the castors or did you install them?

Ron The Mon,
Needle-Freak
Posted on: 07 July 2002 by Alco
quote:
I agree with Greg. IMO, I think your stand looks better than Mana, QS, and SO. How much did it cost you again?

Thanx Ron,
It didn't cost me a dime smile
(many years ago it cost me about 100,- Dutch Guilders/=25,- UKP.
quote:
BTW, are the bottom "spikes" what is left over from removing the castors or did you install them?


yeah, they look like real spikes according to the picture eh!? But you were right, the 'spikes' are what's left over when I removed the castors.
I can even level 'em,so that the rack stands rocksteady. They're not as pointy and sharp as real spikes and perhaps real spikes would even give a better result, but for now it'll do pretty fine,imho.

It blends very well with the rest of the room (more pinewood furniture) and also hides the cable out of sight!

regards,
Alco cool
Posted on: 08 July 2002 by Alex S.
The test of a proper anorak, I always thought, was to ensure one's posts exceeded the year of one's birth. Having accomplished this with drooling nerdy relish, I then felt lost and uneasy.

I know, I thought, I must get me some glass to ping, lots of it. And I'll be blowed if I won't ping the damn stuff all day long.

Anyone who writes here for fun or gets Mana so they might better appreciate music needs serious help.

Alex
Posted on: 08 July 2002 by Simon Matthews
"Who cares what the unwashed, unMana'd ones think?"

Too true, who cares if other people come to different conclusions than you. Who cares if a lot of people out there think that Fraim offers a far more balanced and musical perpormance than Mana?

Harri,harri,harri...
Posted on: 08 July 2002 by Simon Matthews
I picture a man in a saffron robe with bells on his toes.
Posted on: 08 July 2002 by Simon Matthews
Hari Hari Mana Hari Mana Mana Hari.

If I'm the girly man then how come you are the one in the orange dress?
Posted on: 09 July 2002 by Simon Matthews
As a result of my recent Fraim conversion I only wear Smiles!
Posted on: 11 October 2002 by Alco
Hi folks,

remember my topic, about 4 months ago....?
quote:
Checking out this forum and having seen some system pictures of forum members (like Rob Holt,Andrew Randle,etc), I came across the old Sound-Organisation table.

To make a long story short... I want one!

They seem to be great bang for the bucks and I even like the looks of it. Even though they're not finished in beautifl luxureous cherry or maple feneer like say a Quadraspire, I like the simplicity of the SO tables.


Well,.... Today I received a SO 2-tier table!

A few months back I placed an ad for a s/h SO table on Tony L's PFM-"s/h kit" forum and also on two Dutch HiFi-sites.
About 2 weeks ago, when I already forgot about the SO table ad, I received an email from Belgium.
It was from a gentleman who offered me his SO 2-tier table....(hang on)... for FREE!
I'd be more then happy to pay him for the table, but he insisted I only had to pay for P&P costs.

I owe this man a BIG THANX!


To make a long story short: Today the SO table got delivered to my door, by TNT courier.
My system sound great on it. Not that the difference it huge (that wasn't my goal to get the SO table anyway, I just liked the looks/simplicity of it) I do believe that bass got a little punchier/faster. Uptempo basslines are a breathe to follow, and voices seem a little more direct.

All in all, I like it and I got it for the cost of a CD!

Greetings,
Alco smile

Here a little picture:
Posted on: 11 October 2002 by Tarquin Maynard - Portly
Alco

Glad to know I am not the only bloke with SO tables!

Looking at the pic, what are those natty little bits under the spikes? Just carpet / wood floor protectors, or do they affect The Sound?

Mike
Posted on: 11 October 2002 by Alco
quote:
Looking at the pic, what are those natty little bits under the spikes? Just carpet / wood floor protectors, or do they affect The Sound?


Hi Mike,
Yes, those natty(?) little bits under the spikes are woodfloor potector's. I haven't tried the SO table without 'em. (and I won't)
I don't think it would (hardly) affect the sound.

regards,
Alco smile
Posted on: 11 October 2002 by Roy T
Half size boxes and SO kit looks good, could well be due for a showing in the Tate Modern some time soon.
Posted on: 11 October 2002 by plynnplynn
Alco
If it is aesthetics you want check out the following - cannot comment on quality as audiophile supports. Schroers and Schroers Berlin. Very striking range in glass. The rotating CD rack (CD20) is the first CD rack I have seen that I would buy. The racks are expensive!
http://www.schroers.de
Terry
Posted on: 11 October 2002 by Roy T
Terry,
many thanks for the Schroers link, the kit looked out of this world. I hope this is not a case of "form over function" and that the kit sounds as good as it looks (VFM rating, can not guess). I wonder if anyone on this forum has given the stands a try, if so were they any good sonicly? This is the type of equipment you see in advertising shots although you never seem to see the interconnects do you?
Posted on: 11 October 2002 by Alco
Hi Terry,

Thanx for the Schroers link.
I know the brand, and personally I find the looks of all the Schroers supports horrible!
Too modern and too much glass.

Just a matter of taste I guess... roll eyes
Personally I like the simple,minimalistic, square looks of the old SO supports. I don't like the current line of SO furniture. Too glossy and glassy, imho

Regards,
Alco
Posted on: 12 October 2002 by Alco
Hi Mr.P,

Well, I don't know the name of the Hutter website, but here's the Mana site:
www.mana.co.uk Pretty obvious eh... roll eyes
Also, don't forget www.quadraspire.co.uk

BTW: I looked at your user profile and saw the adress of you website, but the link doesn't work!
You must have made a mistake, 'cause it said:
my name .com

regards,
Alco smile