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Posted by: Tam on 13 July 2006
In the midst of particularly boring task at work the other day, I decided to play some of Schubert's great C major symphony in my head (of which the title of this thread is a pathetic attempt to describe).
However, what struck me was that I couldn't simply 'hear' the music in my mind, I had prod it along with dums and das and the like.
Which prompted me to wonder whether we all think about music the same way. Are the dums and dahs essential as an aide-memoire to punctuate the music or can some here hear the score perfectly in their mind without?
regards, Tam
Posted on: 13 July 2006 by u5227470736789439
Dear Tam,
The Gran Partita still is silent, but it can wait for this reply!
The only way I can get a piece out of my head is to listen to it outside myself, as in replay, on occasion. I don't understand it, but on a good day I can actually listen quite happily without anything other than the time to imagine the music.
I thought everyone did this, rather as one imagines everyone is just the same as one's self in other issues as well.
Even from being nine years old I could listen to a whole symphony in apparent silence. I don't know where it came from, but I consider myself lucky to this day for that. My one talent pehaps! My first was the Great C Major...
Kindest regards from Fredrik
Posted on: 13 July 2006 by fred simon
I hear music in my head, voluntarily and in-.
It's still amazing when a piece I haven't heard in years plays so clearly in my head.
Fred
Posted on: 14 July 2006 by pe-zulu
Dear Tam,
When I go by train or by bus - or sometimes when I am waiting for something else - I often listen to music in my head. Only my memory or lack of memory may limit this business. Sometimes I bring with me pocket scores to facilitate my memory. In principle I hear the music very clearly and lively in my head, and at the same time I reflect upon, how I think the music should be played. This is of course no substitute for listening to the interpretations of great artists.
Regards,
Posted on: 14 July 2006 by Tam
On the plane this evening I used my brain to listen to Sibelius's 3rd symphony (or as much of it as I could remember) - which in many ways is more satisfactory than an iPod.
I think what I am trying to get at (and probably is not explaining too well), is not that I can't hear music my head. I often do and love it. More that, I almost always have to punctuation the rhythms somehow (either with mental dums or hums). Perhaps it's the auditory (mean words) nature of the way my mind works - after all, I have no problem with music with words, the words filling that gap. I have been trying, for the sheer fun, to eliminate the dums, however, in certain works it enables me to get exactly the performance in my head that I want.
Dear pe-zulu - there was a lovely episode of the show Due South where Fraiser was left alone in the car and said he would listen to some Mahler, Ray asked him if he would like the stereo left on, to which he replied that he had the score (the soundtrack the filled in for us what his head was accomplishing). I must say, I find the idea in many ways attractive, though the only score I own (Mahler's 1st and 2nd symphonies) is a full size one. Having a score does wonderfully aide understanding of a work though, but that's another thread.
regards, Tam
Posted on: 16 July 2006 by pe-zulu
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Originally posted by Tam:
I think what I am trying to get at (and probably is not explaining too well), is not that I can't hear music my head. I often do and love it. More that, I almost always have to punctuation the rhythms somehow (either with mental dums or hums).
Dear Tam, No, I didn´t understand you at first, but am I right supposing you are saying, that you can´t hear instrumental music in your head without some supporting words (e.g. Tam, da, da, Tam, da, da). Others may have similar problems. It isn´t uncommon for music teachers to put words or syllabels to the "naked" rhytms in order to make them more clear to the pupils. The only thing you can do to overcome this problem is concentrated training. By intensive score reading, at first when actually listening to the music, and also by learning to play some instrument.
Regards,