uniti and UPnp control point software
Posted by: JLD on 24 August 2010
Hello,
I'm searching for a PC software able to control the uniti as UPnp renderer directly from the PC.
I've tried the several solutions:
1 Foobar + foo_upnp component(plugin) (server and controler)
2 Townky manager (server and controller)
3 Cidero media controler (just a simple control point with no Upnp server)
All of these server (foobar upnp and twonky server can be accessed from the uniti upnp menu)
But I cannot get correct results as soon as I want to use the control point of these software:
Twonky and Cidero simply cannot play anything on the uniti as renderer.
Foobar UPnp can play one time (just after the launching aof both the pc and the uniti set on the UPnp mode)
But the track cannot be paused, and if I stop the playing this action is definitive.
After I cannot control any more the uniti from the control point embedded in foobar...
My question will be very simple:
Is there an UPnp software able to control the uniti machine from a PC?
Ps (I've also tried an old plugin for winamp without any results)
Thanks in advance for any input.
JLD
I'm searching for a PC software able to control the uniti as UPnp renderer directly from the PC.
I've tried the several solutions:
1 Foobar + foo_upnp component(plugin) (server and controler)
2 Townky manager (server and controller)
3 Cidero media controler (just a simple control point with no Upnp server)
All of these server (foobar upnp and twonky server can be accessed from the uniti upnp menu)
But I cannot get correct results as soon as I want to use the control point of these software:
Twonky and Cidero simply cannot play anything on the uniti as renderer.
Foobar UPnp can play one time (just after the launching aof both the pc and the uniti set on the UPnp mode)
But the track cannot be paused, and if I stop the playing this action is definitive.
After I cannot control any more the uniti from the control point embedded in foobar...
My question will be very simple:
Is there an UPnp software able to control the uniti machine from a PC?
Ps (I've also tried an old plugin for winamp without any results)
Thanks in advance for any input.
JLD
quote:Originally posted by bubbleguuum:
JLD,
I'm the author of the plugin.
How are you trigerring playback ? From you message it is not 100% clear if you trigger it from the Uniti or from foobar2000 (as shown in this screenshot). If you trigger playback from from the Uniti, it cannot work as the Control Point has no idea of te next/previous track.
If you trigger it like shown in the screenshot, the selected tracks are played immediately and put in the "UPnP Controller Playback Queue" playlist. If you double click a file in that special playlist, it should play immediately on the unity.
If it the above doesn't work you can record a log file with INFO log level and send to it bubbleguuum@free.fr. here are the instructions to record a log file:
Logging can be enabled in File->Preferences->Tools->UPnP->Server->Basic. If log to file is enabled, a log file called foo_upnp.log is generated in either your foobar install directory or in <Document and settings>/<login>/Application Data/foobar2000 (on XP) or in <user dir>/AppData/Roaming/foobar2000 (on Windows Vista/Seven). This file is overwritten on each foobar2000 launch. .
wow!
that's cool to have directly contact with you.
I will send you a message on the address above.
(eventually in french?
I can answer to your questions.
Of course I use one of two method describe in you message. I play FROM foobar. (exactly as shown on your screenshot or by double click in thethe Upnp queue)
I will try to send you the log file.
Thank you very much to respond here!
Jean-luc
Hi Guys,
SteveH from Naim R&D here. My reply also covers the thread raised by BubbleGuuum on his investigation into problem. This can be found at: https://forums.naimaudio.com/ev...2903417/m/7842913437
Firstly thanks for all your feedback and comments, we do listen and action.
On the original NaimUniti it was only really intended to be used via the front panel user interface. People did notice that it could be used with external UPnP control points, but there were a few known compliance issues.
In v3 of the codebase that is shipping in Qute and all new Unitis for the last month has had a fair bit of work in that area.
As a sanity check have gone through the issue on this thread and it all seemed to work ok now.
Pause - on v3 we have gone through all the UPnP server we can get our hands on and the Pause works nicely. If the server does drop the connection then we can't do anything about that, BUT while in Pause mode we actively try and keep the connection open by handling zerowindow probes.
As for dev stuff we actively work behind the scenes with the varioud third parties. If you email the Naim helpdesk they can pass your email into R&D and we can then deal direct.
Regards
Steve
PS. and for existing Uniti's we are scheduling the v3 upgrade to be available by the end of this month. There are a few upgrade dillemas we are ironing out and hence the extra time needed.
SteveH from Naim R&D here. My reply also covers the thread raised by BubbleGuuum on his investigation into problem. This can be found at: https://forums.naimaudio.com/ev...2903417/m/7842913437
Firstly thanks for all your feedback and comments, we do listen and action.
On the original NaimUniti it was only really intended to be used via the front panel user interface. People did notice that it could be used with external UPnP control points, but there were a few known compliance issues.
In v3 of the codebase that is shipping in Qute and all new Unitis for the last month has had a fair bit of work in that area.
As a sanity check have gone through the issue on this thread and it all seemed to work ok now.
Pause - on v3 we have gone through all the UPnP server we can get our hands on and the Pause works nicely. If the server does drop the connection then we can't do anything about that, BUT while in Pause mode we actively try and keep the connection open by handling zerowindow probes.
As for dev stuff we actively work behind the scenes with the varioud third parties. If you email the Naim helpdesk they can pass your email into R&D and we can then deal direct.
Regards
Steve
PS. and for existing Uniti's we are scheduling the v3 upgrade to be available by the end of this month. There are a few upgrade dillemas we are ironing out and hence the extra time needed.