Knob Position !

Hi there, Martin.

Well, with my Nait-2 & CD-3.5 + flatcap my
volume knob doesn't get any higher than 9 0' clock
either. With the volume at about 10 o'clock I'm
afraid I will have some angry looking neighbours
banging on my frontdoor.

With a TT the volume level would be at about 11 to
12 o'clock. And even than is doesn't feel as loud as it does with CD at 9 o'clock.

That's it,

Greetings,
Alco.

Normal listening for me (with CD) is 9 if I'm casually listening, 10 for extended listening on a Fri/Sat evening approaching 11 if I'm really up for a sesh.... (although room acoustics means things get a little shouty at this sort of level unless you are at just the right place).

I'm fortunate I don't have any neighbours who share a wall where my hi-fi is, although I have managed to wake my wife with the volume levels occasionally.

Andy

10 - 10.30 when I am home alone and really in the mood (depends on the music).

9 - 9.30 when the other half is around

P - CDS2/XPS/52/S.cap/135's/Credos

Pierre,

You are a lucky guy. When I had a second half, the second was ordering me the position of the volume knob !

Arye

Hi Arie -

My wife has to put up with an awful lot being married to someone like me - fortunately she really loves music and has not complained about my rather expensive new hobby too much. (wait till I get the DBLs though!!!)

What happened to your name? BTW I thought you were Arie as in Hare(Krishna). How do you pronounce the new one? Is it Are Ye?

Best P.

I have listened to the DBL/6x135 occasionaly with the volume pot at the 3:00 position- and this with a CD source. Talk about Sonic Destruction. This level works well for most music, but Roger Waterish sound effects such as exploding TV screens have in the past taken out tweeters. As did a very loud rendition of 'Cover of the Rolling Stone'. Usual level is 1:00 with CD and 3:00 with vinyl.

Ron
Dum spiro audio
Dum audio vivo

http://homepages.go.com/~rontoolsie/index1.html

Pierre ,

My writing of my name wasn't correct. You pronounce my name like you said " are ye" and gur like goor.
I also mentioned in another thread that the translation of my name is lion (arye) cub (gur).

Arye

I'm about the same as Ron, although the Isobariks are a little less efficient than DBLs.

OTOH, I'm not in a 'big room' (20'x9' with 13' width at one end), so it probably comes out much the same.

cheers, Martin

I work from home, so things can get pretty loud on a quiet lunchtime when neighbours are at work -- sometimes 1 o'clock with CD and 2.30 to 3.00 with vinyl.

Evenings are usually limited to 9 o'clock and 11 o'clock respectively.

I've noticed that my 72 sounds consistently about "5 minutes" louder than my 62 did (nothing else changed) -- this may be to do with a brand new pair of phono boards, but leaves the apparent volume from the CD5 unexplained. In fact, I'm convinced the CD5 turns up the volume of its own accord while playing!

I've also recently been trying 2 layers of "M" under the turntable -- this appears to reduce volume subjectively, again by about 5 mins. Intriguing, eh?

Best;

Mark
Heybrook TT2/RB300/DV10X4/72/Hi/2 x 160/Roksan RokONEs

(an imperfect
forum environment is
better than none)

With my Marantz CD63 / Nait 3, normal listening was 9 o'clock for CD, 11 for vinyl. When the neighbours are out, CD occasionally made it to 11, whilst vinyl allowed 3 without pain.

With the new kit (CD5 / 112 / 150) normal listening with CD and vinyl (levels are matched using the 112's gain programming function) is 3-4 o'clock, but I've had 12 o'clock without it seeming that loud. I tried 3 o'clock recently and feared for my Kans, yet everything was still perfectly clear and frighteningly dynamic!.

I've played at these levels and my partner hasn't complained once - she just sits down and listens, or starts dancing - it's great!

I now need to save for the house upgrade that eliminates neighbours to allow me to enjoy these levels on a regular basis!

Andy.

Andrew L. Weekes
alweekes@audiophile.com

Well there was me thinking that I could bragg how high my knob gets during listening and I see that I'm a small-bit player compared to some of you lads. My knob gets to 9.00 O'clock for CD and around 12.00 O'clock for vinyl with management around. When alone I can get my knob up to around 10.30 for CD and 2.00 for vinyl but the house starts shaking! Music still clear and as musical as ever - just worried about subsidence.

Nigel

CDS-II, LP12/Lingo/Ekos/Klyde/Prefix, NAC52, 2x250 into Nautilus 804.

I usually listen to CD at 9, vinyl at 10.30.

Serious listening sees CD at 11.30, vinyl at 1

Personal best - ZZ Top Eliminator on vinyl at 3pm on the control at 4am in the morning - Bushmills in hand...

Jonathan

GYRO/QC/CDI/102/HI/180/SBL

I said that I think that using the same systems like we do, (using Naim) makes us all listening to quite a similar sound quality.
See the volume setting members are telling about and look how similar it is almost for all of us - although I guess we don't use the same speakers, have not the same rooms size etc..

Arye

My room is about 16' x 30'; my speaker sensitivity is about 91 Db/w/m. I listen to CD and FM at about 7:30, and LP at about 9-10, usually.

I am wondering if anyone else has noticed but the volume knob needs to be cranked up higher on the new 5 series amps to get the same volume compared to the old 3 series. Or is it me?

Sherman,

I think that if it is so - it is better. The volume control is too sensitive with the older Naim, I think that the best is when tha maximum level achieved when the knob is at the "3" hour position - and like it is with my 72, playing a cd, you get maximum volume at the "10" hour position ("12" hour with the TT).

Arye

jean-christophe ,

It is almost like the knob on Naim -

"8" hour litening to cd (3+5) ("9" with Naim)
"11" hour listening to lp (2+9) ("12" with Naim)

As in every area, Linn is a little bit "less" than Naim..

Arye

jean-christophe ,

Good sense of humor .

Arye

Pay attention Pig.
It is generally accepted that manufacturers design for the best sound from a pre-amp with the volume pot at 1 to 2 o'clock. So, it is perfectly reasonable to run a strand asking why Naim systems can't normally be lived with at this level.
On another level I agree with you; It's only bloody hi-fi.
Malcolm

On the old forum I asked naim whether their preamps were equally loud - i.e. is 10 o'clock on a 72 the same as on a 52, and the answer was that the output was the same.

So it is the output from the source and the sensitivity of the speakers that makes the difference to loudness, not the pre-amp.

cheers

Nigel