See you at Donington GP in 2010?
Posted by: Tony Lockhart on 04 July 2008
So, at last, the British Grand Prix fans are going to have a decent circuit to watch F1 at.
Silverstone? Ha ha ha! You just didn't listen to the complaints made by fans. I never could see how they expected fans to pay just to look at the back of advertising hoardings around what looked like the run-down bit of a trading estate in Burnley.
Here's to the future!
Tony
Silverstone? Ha ha ha! You just didn't listen to the complaints made by fans. I never could see how they expected fans to pay just to look at the back of advertising hoardings around what looked like the run-down bit of a trading estate in Burnley.
Here's to the future!
Tony
Posted on: 04 July 2008 by abbydog
Are you suggesting Silverstone is less attractive than Burnley?
Posted on: 04 July 2008 by Tony Lockhart

Or perhaps Silverstone just mirrors the deterioration in the beauty of a lot of the UK.....
Tony
Posted on: 04 July 2008 by Rockingdoc
It should have gone back to Brands 

Posted on: 04 July 2008 by BigH47
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Posted on: 04 July 2008 by Tony Lockhart
quote:Originally posted by Rockingdoc:
It should have gone back to Brands![]()
I agree to an extent, but Donington is going to be changed beyond recognition. I'd hate that to happen to Brands.
Tony
Posted on: 04 July 2008 by BigH47
quote:So, at last, the British Grand Prix fans are going to have a decent circuit to watch F1 at.
Shame it's a motor cycle track.
Suits me I won't be going there to watch either. If it don't come back to Brands (and that will never happen) then I won't go to another BGP.
Ecclestone will say in a couple of years we shouldn't be racing on a M/C track and drop the BGP which is what he really wants.
Posted on: 04 July 2008 by Tony Lockhart
With a bit of luck Bernie will drop dead before that happens.
Tony
Tony
Posted on: 04 July 2008 by scottyhammer
surely its better to have a british gp than none at all ! whichever track its at.
Posted on: 04 July 2008 by Chillkram
I ignored this thread at first as I thought it was about the motorcycle GP. Then I saw the news. I'm not that sorry about Silverstone as I never really liked it that much. I third (or fourth?) all the comments about Brands. That was always my favourite circuit for the BGP and I miss it being there.
Not while he still owns part of my football club, please!
Mark
quote:With a bit of luck Bernie will drop dead before that happens.
Not while he still owns part of my football club, please!
Mark
Posted on: 05 July 2008 by scottyhammer
saw bernie interviewed last night and he was saying that silverstone were given a warning 2 years ago that they would lose the bgp unless they improved facilities which according to him they did not do after verious promises. he also went on to say that silverstone can only blame themselves. i think in that case he has a point.
ive a feeling that it will end up back there in years to come. maybe ?
ive a feeling that it will end up back there in years to come. maybe ?
Posted on: 05 July 2008 by ianmacd
quote:Originally posted by Rockingdoc:
It should have gone back to Brands![]()
Couldn't agree with you more, Rockingdoc.
Ian
Posted on: 07 July 2008 by Ewan Aye
It may be at the wrong end of the country for me, but Donington is a superb track. Bring it on!
Off camber on the way down the Craner Curves into the old hairpin.
Oh boy, can't wait!
It should have happened years ago. I for one am delighted
Off camber on the way down the Craner Curves into the old hairpin.

It should have happened years ago. I for one am delighted
Posted on: 07 July 2008 by Jono 13
and perhaps the teams should be made to use pre-war Auto-Unions on cross-ply tyres to see who really can drive?
Jono
Jono
Posted on: 07 July 2008 by Tony Lockhart
And the same drivers would rise to the top, I reckon.
Tony
Tony
Posted on: 07 July 2008 by JamieWednesday
But if BRDC couldn't make a profit out of Silverstone hosting the GP, how will Donnington? As I understand it, all the rights, advertising and such belong to F1, only ticket sales go the the circuit.
And frankly it's a pain in the arse getting in and out of Donnington. Big new roads in place by 1010? I don't think so. And central/local govt. ain't going to pay for it. I think British GP is doomed, to be replaced by Russia/India or some such with a well funded, government backed package, designed to bring attention and focus to their newly rich nation.
(And it's always bloody raining in Donnington, even worse than Northampton)
And frankly it's a pain in the arse getting in and out of Donnington. Big new roads in place by 1010? I don't think so. And central/local govt. ain't going to pay for it. I think British GP is doomed, to be replaced by Russia/India or some such with a well funded, government backed package, designed to bring attention and focus to their newly rich nation.
(And it's always bloody raining in Donnington, even worse than Northampton)
Posted on: 07 July 2008 by Mike Hughes
I loved the description of Silverstone as a community fair masquerading as a world class event!
However, I remain to be convinced that Donnington will ever host a F1 grand prix. Bernie has been touting for govt. money for years and can't get his head around why he can't have it. This is all part of a tactical game to move things forward. The level of investment needed at Donnington far outstrips that would likely be needed at Silverstone or Brands Hatch so, the question is, what is he really up to?
Bernie never goes from A to B unless he can make C work for him as well.
Mike
However, I remain to be convinced that Donnington will ever host a F1 grand prix. Bernie has been touting for govt. money for years and can't get his head around why he can't have it. This is all part of a tactical game to move things forward. The level of investment needed at Donnington far outstrips that would likely be needed at Silverstone or Brands Hatch so, the question is, what is he really up to?
Bernie never goes from A to B unless he can make C work for him as well.
Mike
Posted on: 07 July 2008 by Jono 13
quote:Originally posted by Tony Lockhart:
And the same drivers would rise to the top, I reckon.
Tony
Particularly if it rains.
Jono
Posted on: 07 July 2008 by Tony Lockhart
One thing that nobody hasn't mentioned yet is the track surface at Donington. The flights overhead leave the track with a certain slipperiness. Worse in the rain!
Not that a little rain got in the way of the 1993 European GP, when I was lucky enough to see Senna go from 6th to 1st on the first lap. The only driver to get his discs glowing down the Craner Curves too!
Tony
Not that a little rain got in the way of the 1993 European GP, when I was lucky enough to see Senna go from 6th to 1st on the first lap. The only driver to get his discs glowing down the Craner Curves too!
Tony
Posted on: 07 July 2008 by scottyhammer
rossi gets round donington pretty quick in the dry or wet with only 2 wheels !
Posted on: 07 July 2008 by Tony Lockhart
Yeah, but he's God.
Tony
Tony
Posted on: 08 July 2008 by scottyhammer
yes tony he is very very good but my point is its the same surface wet or dry / cars or bikes.
regards, dave
regards, dave
Posted on: 08 July 2008 by Tony Lockhart
Drivers with race experience often make the comment about the effects of burned aviation fuel on the track. I'm no expert, and I've seen Rossi do his stuff in qualifying at Donington and yep, it doesn't seem to slow him down, I agree.
Prost might say otherwise after he did, I think, 6 pit stops for different tyres in '93! (conditions did vary greatly to be fair, but 'the professor' didn't look so clever).
Tony
Prost might say otherwise after he did, I think, 6 pit stops for different tyres in '93! (conditions did vary greatly to be fair, but 'the professor' didn't look so clever).
Tony
Posted on: 08 July 2008 by scottyhammer
tony,
lets just be thankful that we have a bgp at all for now - as i fear ecclestone would scrap it tomorrow if he thought he could get away with it!
lets just be thankful that we have a bgp at all for now - as i fear ecclestone would scrap it tomorrow if he thought he could get away with it!
Posted on: 08 July 2008 by Tony Lockhart
Don't get me wrong, I love Donington and wish all involved good luck. It's not ideal, but better than Silverstone if only because it has climbs and drops.
My one fear is that Bernie has given them the GP knowing that they won't reach the required standard, so drops them some time around spring 2010.
Tony
My one fear is that Bernie has given them the GP knowing that they won't reach the required standard, so drops them some time around spring 2010.
Tony
Posted on: 08 July 2008 by Tony Lockhart