Magical Mellotron Moments

Posted by: Nick Lees on 11 August 2007

The Mellotron: stuff

The first widely available sampler, albeit accidentally stolen from the American inventor Chamberlin (who sent his assistant over to the UK to source better tape heads and approached Streetly Electronics who thought it was his invention and offered to make the instrument themselves). Later on a bizarre twist of legislation led to Streetly losing the Mellotron brand and briefly having to call their machines Novatrons before sanity prevailed.

Sounds are recorded on strips of tape (three tracks per tape) that were played linearly over a bank of heads before having to be re-wound, allowing a maximum of 8 seconds duration for a note (though Mike Pinder apparently had a set of tapes recorded at half speed to allow longer duration. Mike had a special relationship with Streetly, being a local lad).

They didn’t travel well – any movement in the frame often caused the tape rack to warp, causing breakages, jams, and the famous matter of keeping the things in tune (Robert Fripp: “Mellotrons don’t tune”). Bands such as Barclay James Harvest and King Crimson had serious problems making live recordings when their ‘trons went out of whack on the night, leading either to scrapped recordings or resorting to studio over-dubs (e.g. BJH Live, Starless And Bible Black)

The original models had two manuals, the left for rhythm and sound effects, the right for lead instruments. Later ones had removable tape racks though very few brave souls attempted to change racks during a live show.

Despite being recordings of real instruments they all end up sounding like a Mellotron rather than the original thing – various theories including the notoriously dodgy replay equipment inserting wow and flutter and/or musicians finding it to play at a constant intonation and pitch without reference sounds.

The second best thing to come out of Aston, the third being (the now sadly made-in-Holland) HP Sauce.

Scandinavia must now be the home of the Mellotron, probably having the highest per capita ratio of ownership on the planet. It’s certainly been the cornerstone of the modern progressive revival started by Änglagård.

Princess Margaret owned one.

A wonderful resource for all things Mellotronic is Andy Robinson’s Planet Mellotron site. Virtually every record made with a Mellotron (or related) is here somewhere, and his reviews are very good.

Anyway, I started out thinking I’d list my favourite 5 magical Mellotron moments, but that quickly became 10 follwed shortly by an almost complete collapse of discipline – hence the rather lengthy list below. It could easily include more Anekdoten (worthy of a thread of their own), more Moodies, Crimson, some Cathedral (US version) and Glass (also US), Deadwood Forest (US again), White Willow, Paatos, Änglagård themselves…etc. etc.

Magical Mellotron Moments

So finally, here’s my list (alphabetical order only):





What are yours?
Posted on: 30 August 2007 by Nick Lees
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Originally posted by Stephen Bennett:
I have a lot more time now to work on it...I'm hoping early(ish) 2008

Stephen


Posted on: 30 August 2007 by Nick Lees
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Originally posted by Pete:
Got married up a mountain just over a year ago, and so someone else took the pictures!

Congrats Pete. Hope you had thermals on underneath - looks a bit parky...
Posted on: 30 August 2007 by MBoimare
Very interesting topic,

For melotron lovers a great one is missing from the list.
Robert Wyatt
Never heard anything like it anywhere else.
Strange and beautiful.
Cheers,
Posted on: 30 August 2007 by Nick Lees
quote:
Originally posted by MBoimare:
Very interesting topic,

For melotron lovers a great one is missing from the list.
Robert Wyatt
Never heard anything like it anywhere else.
Strange and beautiful.
Cheers,

Interesting - which tracks?
Posted on: 30 August 2007 by Guido Fawkes
Is it the first Matching Mole album?
Posted on: 31 August 2007 by Nick Lees
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Originally posted by ROTF:
Is it the first Matching Mole album?
Of course, you're right. Being dozy!
Posted on: 31 August 2007 by Stephen Bennett
You're right - 'Oh Caroline' on the first Matching Mole album is a wonderful song as well as a 'tronfest.

There's some wonderful 'tron on Yes's (underrated) 'Tales from Topographic Oceans' too - I don't care what any of you (or Wakeman) think(s). Cool

Most of Ange's albums have a lovely, wobby, 'tron - listen to 'Le Cimetière des Arlequins' in particular.

Regards

Stephen
Posted on: 01 September 2007 by nap-ster


Track 6: Mellotron Scratch
Posted on: 02 September 2007 by Nick Lees
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Originally posted by nap-ster:


Track 6: Mellotron Scratch

Sadly all PT's "mellotron" bits are samples and not the real thing.
Posted on: 02 September 2007 by DenisA
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Sadly all PT's "mellotron" bits are samples and not the real thing.[/QUOTE]

Gary,

Do you "mellotron" bits from ALL PT's albums? Both Steven Wilson & Richard Barbieri list "mellotron" playing on Signify, Lightbulb Sun & Stupid Dream. I think Richard has ditched Analogue for playing 'live' and any "mellotron" parts would probably be samples.

In case you interested, here is a SW labour of love available to download, from Uwe Häberle swdisco

Denis
Posted on: 02 September 2007 by Nick Lees
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Originally posted by DenisA:
Gary,

Do you "mellotron" bits from ALL PT's albums? Both Steven Wilson & Richard Barbieri list "mellotron" playing on Signify, Lightbulb Sun & Stupid Dream. I think Richard has ditched Analogue for playing 'live' and any "mellotron" parts would probably be samples


Well Andy Thompson is as well-informed as you get and he reckons fake, though he'd put Henry Fool in the same camp (guilt by association) until an HF zealot asked the main man and put Andy right and HF moved back over the fence into the real 'tron section Winker
Posted on: 02 September 2007 by DenisA
"Well Andy Thompson is as well-informed as you get and he reckons fake"

OK OK OK you've won
You make me feel so low
so low
... Thanks Big Grin

I wonder if Mr Bennett knows if Steven has ever owned a "tron"

Denis
Posted on: 02 September 2007 by Nick Lees
Smile

Personally I couldn't really give a hoot if it's "real" or not as long as it sounds good, though I'll allow Andy has earned the right to set his own rules - that is such an amazing web-site for the work of just one man (a few guest reviews excepted). Oh, and Andy's no mean player himself - up till recently he played tron (et al.) in Litmus, who will hit the spot if you like old Hawkwind-style spacerock
Posted on: 03 September 2007 by Stephen Bennett
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I wonder if Mr Bennett knows if Steven has ever owned a "tron"

Denis


Im not sure many people 'own'a 'tron now (except in Sweden where they are as common as Volvos).

What Steven probably has done is use them in studios when avaiable. For the henry fool album, we did some of the recording in a studio with a 'tron - but I don't have one myself (yet). I then overdubbed samples and even replaced some real 'tron with samples if the track needed it.
Same with the hammond and rhodes I used. To be honest, I can't even remember which is which now.

For the new henry fool album, all are samples so far, but hoping to have some real 'tron on the album as we plan to work with some local musicians here. And I hope, one day, to get one of the wobbly wonders myself as I'll have room to house it now.

PS Sound on Sound have a 'tron special next month.


Regards

Stephen
Posted on: 04 September 2007 by DenisA
Stephen,

Thanks for your feedback and good luck with the new album. Are you going to contribute to the new no-man project?
In case you want your appetite whetting here is a previous SOS 'tron article from 2002 rebirth of the cool.

Denis
Posted on: 04 September 2007 by Nick Lees
I see Tim Bowness is working on Jacob Holm-Lupo's (he of White Willow) solo project The Opium Cartel, which is bound to have bags of Mellotron as he's using White Willow and Wobbler keyboard man Lars Fredrik Frøislie.

So Stephen, if Paatos can't lend you theirs, get in there and borrow Lars's. No excuses now...
Posted on: 05 September 2007 by Stephen Bennett
Arrgh! How do I delete the other messages???


DenisA - I hope to contribute - I've already played on some of the songs, but whether I remain in the final mix is anyone's guess!. Tim has been over at Steven's studio the last couple of weeks and we'll probably do some of the vocal here. And thanks for the wishes! I've seen the 'Tron article, thanks for the reminder though. Have you seen the Memotron?I played it at the Frankfurn Musicmesse - not sure if it's genius or madness though!

Gary - We hope to have a few of the Swedish and Norwegian guys contributing to the fool album, so you're right - no excuses.

I now realise why the dimensions of the Volvo estate have been chosen; you can get one Mk II or two Model 400s in there. Big Grin

Regards

Stephen