Taking a SNAIC apart

Why not just invest a fiver in four new DIN plugs - if you're interested e-mail me and I'll let you know where you can get them. Seems a shame to butcher a snaic - what colour is it grey or black?

David

"Opinions are like belly-buttons, everybody's got one"

Got a gray and a black one.

Since it's used to connect to the power amp and works well, seems to make sense to use them was going to butcher the grey one as will want the black one for the 140 when the 250 goes for a recap.

To err is human; to really foul it up requires a computer.

I guess I'm missing something here - but I don't quite understand why you want to butcher the poor thing in the first place?

David

I favour the use of a soldering iron

I want to butcher the things so I can use NAIM amps for my AV system. I want to use the center channel output (phono) to input to both channels of the NAP 140 which will then drive a pair of IBL's as the centre channel. This should blend in well with the SBL's as the main speakers. (Sounds good even off the existing amp)

I also want to use the removed 4 pin din to solder to the end of a some chord phono leads so I can connect to the rear outputs (2 phonos) to a NAP 140 so I can try it with SBL's main, phantom center and IBL's for the rears to see which sounds best.

Hope to eventually get second NAP 140 and IBL's so all powered by NAIM amps and drop in an AV2 when funds permit and the switching unit is out.


Only butchering the gray snaic but cant see how to get the DIN sockets off easily.

To err is human; to really foul it up requires a computer.

And before anyone says it, I did go to a naim dealer and they wanted to order me a cable from chord, said they could not replace the din and did not make up leads. As it's an experement and I can use a soldering iron why spend £ just in case it donesn't work.

To err is human; to really foul it up requires a computer.

Having seen what you want to do, you might still be better off to get some new DIN plugs and make the cables up from scratch. It'll probably be no more difficult and won't waste the Snaic (which you could always flog for £25 to cover your costs).

David

"Opinions are like belly-buttons, everybody's got one"

Note, if it's really a SNAIC, these have different DIN plugs than interconnects.

cheers, Martin

Assuming you have a hi-cap or flat cap is it not possible to take a lead off this into your spare amps for the centre.

I am probably wrong.

Is there is an easy way to get the 4 pin off or do I just take my wire cutters and......

The SNAIC from the Hi-Cap goes to the 250.

But I have a spare 140 and IBL's and a DSP-E800 so I want to remove the 4 pin Din from the gray SNAIC and solder on a single phono socket the single +Ve of the phono being soldered to the two left and right +Ve leads in the SNAIC.

I then take the removed 4 pin din and solder L
+ R +Ve to each +Ve of the 2 chord phono leads I have spare (after I've removed the phonos leads from one end)

This will then give me the two leads I need to experement with driving my 140 for 2 IBLS as centre or rear channels.

I've talked to Naim and they say this is fine to do in my set up if I'm handy with a soldering iron. I just want to know

Diferent cables, making from scratch have been mentioned but why bother, I have all the bits I need. After experementing and if it works rather than pay £££ for fancy cable I'd probably buy a black SNAIC and adapt that for my needs.

To err is human; to really foul it up requires a computer.

It's quite easy on an old grey SNAIC to do this: -

1. Undo the screw on the side of the DIN plug

2. Slide the outer body / rubber boot down the cable sheath, by holding the cable and pushing it further into the connector body.

3. Carefully bend the cable clamp away from the cable.

4. Unsolder or cut the wires to each pin.

Hope this helps

I thought that was just tooooo obvious which is why I didn't suggest it before

David

"Opinions are like belly-buttons, everybody's got one"

Thanks guys.

The way I thought, just being cautious, done things the way I thought before and ended up getting a right mess so best to ask

To err is human; to really foul it up requires a computer.

Hum, easier to explain than to do. Good luck.

Already tried it and resigned. Andrew point 2 is quite difficult to do without damaging anything.

And, when the signal source is not Naim, i prefer to use a shielded cable.

Emmanuel

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[This message was edited by Manu on FRIDAY 08 November 2002 at 05:33.]

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Andrew point 2 is quite difficult to do without damaging anything.

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On a black Snaic that's true, on a grey it's usually easy as they are virtually falling apart anyway. A bit of lube will help, Hellerine lubricant or similar being the usual stuff, but failing that some care and a bit of petroleum jelly will work, assisting both disassembly and re-assembly.

Once the conenctors are removed re-shrink the heatshrink sleeving to overcome any slackness induced over years of flexing.

An even easier way is to strip the heatshrink and fit new after dismantling.

I usually fit new conenctors to any grey SNAIC's I've stripped - they're useful for test or keeping bits of kit warm whilst comparing.

Andy.

Bit of a struggle but with some wiggling (the cable not me) got the din off.

Thanks.

To err is human; to really foul it up requires a computer.

Andrew, you are right, my comments applied to black SNAIC. No problems with grey ones.

Emmanuel

All opinions are my own, and reflect those of the organisation i work for, even if not stipulated.