QS Ref versus QS Ref (bog seat) - an A/B test using Allaes

Posted by: Steve Toy on 06 February 2002

I happened upon my dealer's dem room yesterday to find the following system playing some tinkly jazz to itself:

Naim CD5 on the top shelf of QS Ref (sans holes) on the left, 102 on the top shelf of QS Ref (bog seats) on the right, with a 180 on the bottom shelf into the new Allaes, which are currently being run in...

The system was a bit of a mullet on account of the CDX being out on loan, so I asked for a Hi-cap to give the CD player a fighting chance.

Duly installed, I then moved the 102 down one shelf to free up the top shelf for the A/B dem of the two racks.

I selected a couple of tracks from the Heart Greatest Hits album.

Moving the CD player across to the bog seat version opened up the soundstage, freeing the music from the confines of the speakers. Melodic threads became even more apparent and easier to follow in both isolation, and in the temporal context of the rest of the musical performance.

The comparison was quite subtle in many ways; there was no really huge dynamic lift as I had been expecting, just more music, more tunes.

The difference between the two stands is probably equivalent to adding a Hi-cap to a CD5, i.e: well worth the ten quid per shelf or the upgrade.

Mine should hopefully be arriving in the next few days.

As for the Allaes, they were showing promise, but they weren't really reaching their full potential yet for some rather obvious reasons...

Cheers,

Steve.

[This message was edited by Steven Toy on WEDNESDAY 06 February 2002 at 14:06.]

Posted on: 07 February 2002 by Geoff C
ignoring 'ignorance'

Vuk good to see some more of your excellent photos breaking up the pages. (Your not really going to do a disappearing act again are you?)

Regards
Geoff

Posted on: 08 February 2002 by Jez Quigley
My comments were not about the woman, (and it is offensive of Vuk to deliberately misrepresent my meaning, let alone his use of the word 'cretin') but about the well known issue of how bad hands/fingers can look in photos, and that a professional photographer would be aware of it and avoid it.

How I came to use an alias is a direct result of the unprovoked personal insults I received from Vuk as a forum newbie, vile attacks he continues with others here. I am in favour of everyone participating on the forum and opposed to bans and self-imposed prima donna sulks, but if people are going to dish out insults they shouldn't be too surprised if they get some back.

Posted on: 08 February 2002 by Steve Toy
I'll have to say that I'm with you on this one.

Those fingers do look a bit silly - like they are somehow glued together, and I'm sure that Dina's real fingers don't look like that.

The contrasting red/bleached effect doesn't really work for me.

The photo is a work of art - an impression.

However, from a realist perspective, it is flawed, imho.

Ironically, the visual analogy with Mana is actually confirmed with this photograph. wink

Regarding the use of noms de plume on this forum, that is your prerogative.

I notice that like many others who post here under a pseudonym, clicking on your email address reveals your true identity.

If someone posts here without giving their email address or any other info about their identity, then, and only then, would there be any justification in accusing them of hiding behind a mask.

Remember Bzlebub?

Sticking to analogies:

Vuk,

With all due respect, it isn't your stands, or the way you take and post photos, it is the record you need to change.

You've been playing the same "boybanders" one for far too long, imho, and now it is wearing out.

Cheers,

Steve.

Posted on: 09 February 2002 by bob atherton
Steve G, I admire your use of different kit for different styles of music. Most people don't enjoy this luxury & I guess could not be arsed to change equipment, but good on you.

Velvia for landscapes IMO can work really well if the light is a bit flat & the view need a bit of added colour & contrast. Velvia for portraits has got to be a no no EXCEPT for creative interpretation, good on you, Vuk.

My work is photographing products for advertising. My clients want their product to look at least as good as they do in real life & generally a great deal better. I often use Velvia to heighten the colour & contrast & make the product appear hyper real. This 'effect' is always reduced dramatically when the transparency has been scanned & printed. The transparency on a light box is like a Linn Naim system, the final reproduction is often more like an Amstrad Tower 'system'.

Of course if one gets into fine art prints using dye transfer techniques then that is another ball game completely.

Bob.

Posted on: 09 February 2002 by Chris Brandon
I have used countless rolls of film over the years in my trusty OM1,but usually of the non adventerous Kodak veriaty and occasionally dabble in B&W or Sepia.

I really fancy trying this "Velvia",is it commonly available ?

Regards

Chris

Posted on: 09 February 2002 by Steve Toy
I have never tried to email you. razz

Cheers,

Steve.

Posted on: 09 February 2002 by bob atherton
Velvia for 35mm is very commonly available. It is meant to be 50 ASA, but I would advise you rate it at 40 ASA. It is an E6 process, so check your lab is OK with this. Good shooting.......

Bob.

Posted on: 09 February 2002 by Chris Brandon
(Speed setting and Processing points noted.)

Regards

Chris