Peeing standing up.
Posted by: Dungassin on 14 November 2010
What is it with some women? Last night I was watching some (boring) TV program with wife, daughter and son-in-law. It was about building some eco-friendly house (in France?), and the youngish woman (about 35-40) was saying how they only had an earth toilet so her husband would have to pee sitting down.
Like most younger women she doesn't seem to realise that as we men get older, peeing sitting down is difficult due to prostatic hypertrophy. I always have to stand up to pee after having a crap. Even SWMBO understands this.
I remember explaining this to one (extremely feminist) young woman, when she was daring to suggest that men should be MADE to pee sitting down. Women!!!
Posted on: 14 November 2010 by graham55
What a remarkable insight into growing aged and infirm!
I usually prefer to pee sitting down these days, although not in any public situation.
Posted on: 14 November 2010 by mikeeschman
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Posted on: 14 November 2010 by BigH47
Germans put 'pinkle' alarms on seats which go off if men (or I assume some women) lift the seat to pee. They say it is to prevent them "missing" the target.
I do have some sympathy with Dungassin though.
Posted on: 14 November 2010 by GreenAlex
quote:
Originally posted by BigH47:
Germans put 'pinkle' alarms on seats which go off if men (or I assume some women) lift the seat to pee. They say it is to prevent them "missing" the target.
Interesting. First I have heard of it. Must be living in the wrong...or rather right...part of Germany
Posted on: 14 November 2010 by TomK
I confess I haven't hit this one yet and still enjoy pressure washing the porcelain. However the iron bladder is sadly no more. I remember it was not that long ago I'd feel a slight twinge and six pints later I'd decide I ought to get to the toilet fairly soon. When that twinge happens now I've got ten, perhaps fifteen minutes max.
I can't find Billy Connolly's exact words of advice for men hitting "that age" but it's along the lines of
1. Never miss an opportunity to pee.
2. Never trust a fart.
3. Always take advantage of an erection.
Doesn't seem so funny now.
Posted on: 14 November 2010 by TomK
quote:
Originally posted by BigH47:
Germans put 'pinkle' alarms on seats which go off if men (or I assume some women) lift the seat to pee. They say it is to prevent them "missing" the target.
I do have some sympathy with Dungassin though.
Sounds like an urban myth.
Posted on: 14 November 2010 by David Scott
I have never understood the idea that it's wrong to leave the toilet seat up. I understand that it's very mildly inconvenient for women, but then it's also very mildly inconvenient for men when it gets left down. Why anyone would care enough to make an issue of it is completely beyond me. Caring about it enough to try and dictate to other people what position they should adopt to urinate is even more bizarre.
It's always seemed an excellent (though very trivial) illustration of how a legitimate desire to assert oneself in the face of discrimination can lead to new forms of discrimination. I suppose this happens because such an enterprise carries within it a determination to resist the other party's point of view.
Posted on: 14 November 2010 by fred simon
quote:
Originally posted by Dungassin:
I always have to stand up to pee after having a crap.
TMI !!
Posted on: 14 November 2010 by TomK
David you're dead right. I live in a house of three males and one female. The toilet seat stays where it is until it has to be moved. Surely that's the simplest, most efficient way to do it. Thankfully my wife is not one of those precious types although her sister was. She'd scream and slam the seat down in a manner audible throughout the house, and no doubt shorten the life of both toilet and seat. Sadly as she was the diva of the house nobody dared say a word.
Posted on: 14 November 2010 by GreenAlex
Well, as a fellow peeing-standing-up-er I have to say that I put the seat down and the lid. Everytime.
I just don't find it appealing to walk into the toilet and see right into the bowl. It just looks nicer with the toilet closed.
I don't appreciate women demanding their partner to sit down. I do respect the wish of a host if I am a guest somewhere.
And I do accept that should I miss or should I start shaking to the beat of my toilet-radio, I will be the one to clean it up.
Other than that, no, I prefer to stand and do not accept the "work-aspect" for women as I open and close everytime.
In fact I know lots of women who leave the seat down but the lid up. So maybe they should worry about more important stuff instead.
Posted on: 14 November 2010 by TomK
It's all about mutual respect. If my wife felt strongly about it I'd probably also feel differently. Indeed during winter I tend to put the lid down as it's perhaps more energy efficient not to have the water exposed.
But she knows me too well to have any illusions she could force me to sit down to pee. I suggest any man who does this at his partner's behest should find either a new partner or a nice little velvet covered case in which to present his cojones to her.
Posted on: 14 November 2010 by kuma
It's only proper.
Posted on: 14 November 2010 by Fisbey
Grand designs - good programme that, in my opinion of course.
Posted on: 15 November 2010 by nap-ster
Cracking read over breakfast.
Posted on: 15 November 2010 by Richard Dane
nap-ster, I'd give the orange juice a miss though if I were you...
Posted on: 15 November 2010 by gone
quote:
Originally posted by kuma:
It's only proper.
That's a handy thing to take to a picnic
Posted on: 15 November 2010 by GreenAlex
quote:
Originally posted by Nero:
That's a handy thing to take to a picnic
What, the chicks or your mom?
Posted on: 15 November 2010 by tonym
If you think about it, the normal sitty-down domestic toilet's a poor design for us men anyway - there should by rights be proper urinals installed in all bathrooms.
On the subject of peeing as one grows older, have you noticed when you're in a pub drinking beer you don't need to pee for a while but as soon as you go once you then need to go every ten minutes?
It's called 'Breaking the Seal" in certain circles.
Posted on: 15 November 2010 by Dungassin
quote:
Originally posted by TomK:
I confess I haven't hit this one yet and still enjoy pressure washing the porcelain. However the iron bladder is sadly no more. I remember it was not that long ago I'd feel a slight twinge and six pints later I'd decide I ought to get to the toilet fairly soon. When that twinge happens now I've got ten, perhaps fifteen minutes max.
I can't find Billy Connolly's exact words of advice for men hitting "that age" but it's along the lines of
1. Never miss an opportunity to pee.
2. Never trust a fart.
3. Always take advantage of an erection.
Doesn't seem so funny now.
Very true. For "no 2s" (must remember to be PC) I now find that I really have to go NOW - or at least fairly soon.
The other trouble with peeing sitting down is that the natural angle of the "apparatus" tends to direct the flow between the seat bottom and the bowl, so if you're not careful you finish up with a wet floor and an angry wife.
Posted on: 15 November 2010 by Dungassin
quote:
Originally posted by TomK:
David you're dead right. I live in a house of three males and one female. The toilet seat stays where it is until it has to be moved. Surely that's the simplest, most efficient way to do it. Thankfully my wife is not one of those precious types although her sister was. She'd scream and slam the seat down in a manner audible throughout the house, and no doubt shorten the life of both toilet and seat. Sadly as she was the diva of the house nobody dared say a word.
I only have daughters, so I was educated fairly early on into putting the seat back down.
Posted on: 15 November 2010 by Dungassin
quote:
Originally posted by GreenAlex:
Well, as a fellow peeing-standing-up-er I have to say that I put the seat down and the lid. Everytime.
I just don't find it appealing to walk into the toilet and see right into the bowl. It just looks nicer with the toilet closed.
I don't appreciate women demanding their partner to sit down. I do respect the wish of a host if I am a guest somewhere.
And I do accept that should I miss or should I start shaking to the beat of my toilet-radio, I will be the one to clean it up.
Other than that, no, I prefer to stand and do not accept the "work-aspect" for women as I open and close everytime.
In fact I know lots of women who leave the seat down but the lid up. So maybe they should worry about more important stuff instead.
You should always put the lid down before flushing - less aerosol to be distributed around the room that way. (That's the medical/hygiene advice over ...
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Posted on: 15 November 2010 by Dungassin
Having just had our 2yr old granddaughter for the weekend, I've had to remove the training seat from the loo every time I want to go. Didn't feel the slightest urge to complain about this, and am so henpecked I automatically put it back when I'd finished. I suppose I could have used the 3rd toilet which was not so-equipped, but habit dies hard.
Posted on: 15 November 2010 by Paper Plane
I'll sit down if I'm staggering to the toilet in the middle of the night so as not to put the light on but otherwise, I'm a stander.
I've asked, but never been presented with a coherent, logical, explanation for why the seat has to be down for women. Has anyone else?
steve
Posted on: 15 November 2010 by George Fredrik
So they don't have to put it down for themselves, or so I was told by a good lady friend of mine when I asked!
Since she shaved that particular rough edge off me, I have developed the habit of always leaving not only the seat down but also the lid!
ATB from George
Posted on: 15 November 2010 by Jim Lawson
The seat should always be left in the upward position, to be lowered by those that require it. Should be placed in the upward position when finished.
I have two older sisters. Growing up, they disagreed, of course. I simply took a piss standing up, seat up or down. They soon learned to leave the seat in the upward position...
