'Hardcore' Classical Music

Posted by: dave brubeck on 05 August 2003

Ummm...

..my knowledge of classical music is limited to say the least. I have 2 questions:

1. Who is the classical music 'hardcore' king? By hardcore, I mean the type of 'hardcore' associated with older electronic/ ravey type music - up tempo, monotonous, trancey, hypnotic in your face beats. Is there a classical composer who has written such high bpm scores for nicey nicey olde worlde orchestral instruments?

2. Is there an 'electronica' artist who has used classical music in this way? i.e not like all that 'nice' 'adagio for strings' bloke - is it orbit?
Posted on: 05 August 2003 by JamH
Some more advice on classical ....

Maybe look at Steve Reich ....
Drumming
or
Six Pianos
for 'up tempo monotonous trancy'
but try to hear them first.

For even more trancy try
Karlheinz Stockhausen
Stimmung.

Be a bit careful with classical
composers -- an individual composer
[e.g. Stravinsky] can write
in lots of totally different styles.

James
Posted on: 06 August 2003 by Pete
Running with James' thought of Steve Reich... there's a contemporary classical guitarist called Mats Bergstrom who has a CD called "Substring Bridge", and one of the tracks on it is a version of Reich's "Electric Counterpoint. As a bonus, the disc includes a beats-based remix, and that could be just the thing.
I like both the "normal" and remixed version, and the rest of the disc isn't shabby either. Discovered, not too surprisingly, on Late Junction, so another thanks to Verity & Fiona.

My local Fopp couldn't find any trace of the above CD, but Amazon list it, and delivered me a copy in a couple of days.

Pete.
Posted on: 06 August 2003 by Geofiz
If you are venturing into early music then an absolute must is:

Allegri: Miserere (Gimell CDGIM 339)which also contains William Mundy: Vox Patris caelestris and Palestrina: Missa Papae Marcelli all performed by the Tallis Scholars directed by Peter Phillips.

Truly one of the masterpeices of pure vocal music and recording.

For electronic classical try the original, Switched on Bach, (if you can find it) but it may be too dated and mainstream for what you are after.

Cheers
Posted on: 06 August 2003 by Wolf
For trance, Reich is it, try Music for 18 Musicians there is also a Remixed Reich where he lent his origional tapes to dance mix DJs and put their take on his music on CD. Very interesting tho shorter than the origionals.

I also love John Adams, Chairman Dances is a great early work of his. Then I finally bought his Violin Concerto and didn't like it till I had an AHHHAHH experience and love it now. Hard driving music, but once you get it it is amazing. Have his latest Naive and Sentimental msic on as I type, very strange and wonderful.

For the dark side, try Bartok's Music for Strings, Percussion and Celeste and Arvo Part's Fratres, Tabla Rassa and Symphony #3 with Gil Shaham on DG. wow is that an amazing trip late at night.

glenn

Life is analogue
Posted on: 07 August 2003 by tones
The best electronic classics recording of which I'm aware is one of Bob James playing the music of Jean-Philippe Rameau. In my opinion, this is much superior to Walter/Wendy Carlos's efforts. Sadly, I don't think it's available any more.