A possibility for a cheaper 82/52 ?
Posted by: Arye_Gur on 21 September 2001
The 82 and the 52 have the possibility to record a source while listening to another one.
I had this possibility with my QED and never used it.
As Naim are paying a lot of attention to each detail, I guess this extra feature costs quite a lot, so don't you think Naim can come with a 82/52
without this feature - and maybe it will be considerably cheaper ?
Arye
Posted on: 21 September 2001 by Phil Barry
My bet us that Naim would say they already have produced what you're suggesting. They call it the 102.
When I purchased a used 82, my dealer said the current 102s were better. But they did allow that the 82 with 2 Hicaps was better than a 102 with one hicap.
Phil
Posted on: 21 September 2001 by Thomas K
quote:
When I purchased a used 82, my dealer said the current 102s were better
... and after a short but pregnant pause he said, "Oh by the way, Phil - I just *happen* to have a used 102 in the back. It's the version that's much better than the 82. I mean, it's a bargain, really ..."
Thomas
Posted on: 21 September 2001 by Mike Hanson
quote:
When I purchased a used 82, my dealer said the current 102s were better.
IMO, you're dealer was wrong. I've owned both a 102 and circa '93 82. The 82 was a whole lot better! In fact, I would gladly take a bare, used 82 over a 102/NAPS/Hi-Cap.
-=> Mike Hanson <=-
Posted on: 21 September 2001 by Phil Barry
I never did much of a comparison. My 82 came in for many fewer dollars than a new 102/NAPSC. So what if it didn't sound as good? :-)
Hanson, you could have saved me this experience if you had only come down a few hundred bucks on 102 you were selling! Oh - but then the dealer would have told me how much better a new 102 was, when compared toa used one!
Regards.
Phil
Posted on: 21 September 2001 by Rico
'arry
I would not consider a high-performance expensive pre-amp without separate record facility.
As the others say - what you're asking for is offered in the 102. Or hell, the 72 for that matter.
Rico - SM/Mullet Audio
Posted on: 21 September 2001 by SaturnSF
I own a 102/NAPSC/HiCap, and love it. But the 82 really is better.
Posted on: 21 September 2001 by Martin Payne
On this subject, try listening to the preamp (i.e. 82 or 52) with the record-out bank muted.
cheers, Martin
Posted on: 21 September 2001 by Phil Barry
Actually, I believe there is an upgrade available for my vintage 82, but it is not generally thought to be cost effective.
Meanwhile, I'm really happy with my system now, so I see no need to get it serviced.
Now, if only my favorite FM radio came back (it was sold a few months ago to a conglomerate for $163M and switched from classical to something else).
Posted on: 21 September 2001 by Arye_Gur
Rico,
I guess the 102 is not as good as the 82.
So what is wrong with the idea that there will be a "80" and a "50" pre, without this feature ?
The 82 and the 52 will stay as they are.
Arye
Posted on: 21 September 2001 by Rico
simple marketing, my friend. Will the market support two extra preamps at similar price points with reduced functionality? No.
I guess it would be called the 130, being the love-child of 80 and 50 
Rico - SM/Mullet Audio
Posted on: 22 September 2001 by Alex S.
but there are a lot of people out there who don't like the 82. Me for one. As many know, I prefer my 32.5/Supercap, and this is not met with incredulity outside the forum. But so far I am yet to find anyone who doesn't love the 52. Me included.
Alex
