Prog-rock singers and song writers

Posted by: Guido Fawkes on 02 January 2010

The best songwriters of this genre didn't sound angry, try to write how miserable life was/is, but simply created something interesting to listen to. No protest songs, nothing from personal experience and they called it pretentious - here are a couple of example, but please supply more.


A haunting lyric from one of the best writers of prog-rock songs - Kevin Ayers

She climbs up the stairs by the light of a candle
Then the door with no handle is closing behind her again
She places the light on a chair by the window
Says a prayer while the wind blows
And then in her bed clothes she hides
Now she’s safe from the darkness
She’s safe from it’s clutch
Now nothing can harm her
At least not very much

She climbs up a hill and is handed a parcel
Then she unwraps the parcel
And discovers a castle inside
The draw bridge is open
And a voice from the water
Says "welcome my daughter"
We’ve all been expecting you to come
She climbs up the stairs with the light of a candle
Then the door with no handle is closing behind her again
Now she’s safe from the darkness
She’s safe from it’s clutch
Now nothing can harm her
At least not very much


Please click here to hear one of the very best prog-rock vocalists ever


and a different slant from a man who was once in a Caravan - Richard Sinclair

I'm vitamin-enriched
What's more, I'm absolutely wholesome!
No artificial processing or anything so loathsome!
You'll fancy me at lunch, not to mention tea
I'm easily digested naturally!

You'll want to slip me in your kitchen
How'd you like to mother me?
And I'll be tasty, Mr. Pastry, wouldn't that be lovely?
My mother once told me, 'eat what you are given'
Don't worry mum, I've realised what fun that could be
It makes a real man of me now, I think you'll agree
I've got more calories than brown bread in me now
No-one can tell !!!

So don't be scared by the thought
of putting on three extra stone
Disregard all dieting information
It's best to leave well alone
You're better off fully grown!


Please click to hear to hear Richard in full swing
Posted on: 03 January 2010 by seagull
quote:
The best songwriters of this genre didn't sound angry, try to write how miserable life was/is, but simply created something interesting to listen to. No protest songs, nothing from personal experience and they called it pretentious - here are a couple of example, but please supply more.


Hmmm. sorry to be predictable about my choice - for the finest lyricist/singer-song writer choose any of the following by ...

Peter Hammill, of course

Good examples...

In The Black Room
On Tuesdays she used to do Yoga
The Sleepwalkers
Every Bloody Emporer
The Lie (Bernini's St. Theresa)
All That Before
Posted on: 03 January 2010 by Guido Fawkes
Great link - thanks.
Posted on: 06 January 2010 by JamieL_v2
I keep trying to think of something to add to this thread, but Seagull has summed it up. For me no-one's lyrics hit the depth of feeling and height of intelligence of Peter Hammill. (Joni Mitchell comes close though).

He is playing in London later this month, but I am holding out, as his website implies there is likely to be a full tour this year. A very passionate performer, well worth seeing, and in some ways his songs are better live as his vocal style tends towards a performance of the lyrics, rather than a melodic relaying of them.

ROTF, the one album by him you might find easiest to listen to is 'Fools Mate' Sofasound
His earliest songs from the 60's, recorded with members of VDGG and Lindisfarne, sort of clearing the air, before a very creative period of new song writing.

His next three solo albums were from the second period of VDGG being split, and some of the tracks would have been VDGG tracks had the band been together. Some are played as the band, others remain solo efforts. 'Chameleon in the Shadow of the Night', 'The Silent Corner and the Empty Stage' and 'In Camera' are my very favourite albums, but I am always a little wary of recommending them to those who do not already know VDGG albums like 'Godbluff' and 'Still Life' which are posibly the most accessible way into Peter Hammill's songwriting.
Posted on: 07 January 2010 by seagull
Showing my age a little my first experience of Hammill/VdGG was during that era. "Pawn Hearts" and "H to He" were my first VdGG albums and the Hammill solo albums mentioned by Jamie.

I would also add "Over" to the list of Hammill at his absolute peak.

A personal favourite from that era is "Nadir's Big Chance" but then my tastes were changing then anyway (from prog to punk/new wave).
Posted on: 07 January 2010 by Guido Fawkes
quote:
ROTF, the one album by him you might find easiest to listen to is 'Fools Mate' Sofasound
His earliest songs from the 60's, recorded with members of VDGG and Lindisfarne, sort of clearing the air, before a very creative period of new song writing.
Hi Jamie

Agreed - great album; had it since it first came out. Lindisfarene were excellent too - especially their debut.

Seagull, I also think Nadir's Big Chance is an excellent record.

Always liked VdG and PH - so only agreement from me (much better than that other group who are mentioned rather a lot and have a singing drummer - IMHO, of course)
Posted on: 08 January 2010 by Ron Brinsdon
ROTF, seagull and all

Seeing Lindisfarne and VDGG in the same post reminded me of the Charisma records 6/- (30p) tour in 1971. At B'ham Town Hall 25 Jan, Genesis came on first, then Lindisfarne and finally VDGG - I think the appearance order changed everynight. My first exposure to VDGG and they have stayed with me since.I'll bet you are both old enough to remember that tour!

Have a good one

Ron
Posted on: 08 January 2010 by Pete
I like a lot of Adrian Belew's work with 80s+ Krim, one of the few "progressive" units that didn't get stuck in a rut. His entertaining word-play is much better for my ears than vintage Sinfield flights of fancy.

The World's My Oyster Soup Kitchen Floor Wax Museum gets a special title mention too, and when it comes to deconstruction...

And when I have some words
This is the way I'll sing -
Through a distortion box
To make them menacing

Yeah, then I'm gonna have to write a chorus
We're gonna need to have a chorus
And this seems to be as good as any other place to sing it till I'm blue in the face

And for a second verse
Of terse economy
I'll brew another pot
Of ambiguity

Then I'm gonna have to write a chorus
We're gonna need to have a chorus
And this seems to be as good as any other place to sing it till I'm blue in the face
Yes, we're gonna need to have a chorus
I'm gonna have to write a chorus
And this seems to be as good as any other place to sing it till I'm blue in the face

Happy with what you have to be happy with
you have to be happy with what you have
to be happy with you have to be happy with what you have
happy with what you have to be happy with
you have to be happy with what you have
to be happy with what you have to be happy with what you have to happy

Then I guess I'll repeat the chorus!
We're gonna repeat the chorus!
I guess I'll repeat the chorus!
We're gonna repeat the chorus!
Then I guess I'll repeat the chorus!
We gonna repeat the chorus!
I guess I'll repeat the chorus!
We're gonna repeat the chorus!

Anyone would think he's taking the piss...

Pete.
Posted on: 10 January 2010 by Clive B
To really appreciate Prog-Rock you need to read this (slightly tongue in cheek) article:

 http://www.cracked.com/funny-2359-progressive-rock/ 
Posted on: 10 January 2010 by BigH47
Slightly tongue in cheek??

Good stuff, sections remind me of this forum. Roll Eyes
Posted on: 13 January 2010 by Guido Fawkes
Apparently the Naim HDX can hold around 10,000 songs or 20 prog-rock tracks.