Christ. I think I like J***!

What is this strange masturbatory album that you speak of? Stop living in denial and buy some Ellington.

Gary

Woodface is right.

Blues in Orbit by Duke Ellington is probably the bst record ever made by anyone ever.

Failing that, try The Far East Suite.

Mmmm... Nice!

I think you mis-understand. I have different kind of blue and I think its crap.

I don't like jazz where they are all farting away in musical arguments.

I am hoping for some recommendations for similar veins to CO.

Cheers

Perhaps when you get a decent system you'll come to understand 'KoB' a bit better...

Try some Ellington or Basie classic Big Band stuff, you quite often find really cheap unknown session stuff by Ellington, the three or four I have are all good.

If you see James Booker's 'Classified' buy it, it probably qualifies as jazz. Also any old Mose Allison. 'Seventh Son' especially. Piano/Drums/Bass with words.

I've no idea what 'Cinematic Orchestra' sounds like, so the above are all out of context.

Paul

Garyi,

So you want to get into a bit of recreational jazz ? Well my friend, I'm here to warn you that all roads eventually lead to the hard stuff. You think you can handle it ?

OK, be it on your head. I think I know what CO is like. What you are after is mild jazz with lots of strings and stuff. To that end I can heartily recommend :

Vince Mendoza - "Epiphany". With the LSO.
John Scofield - "Quiet".
Stefano Di Battista - "Round About Roma". Arranged by Vince Mendoza.
Pat Metheny - "Secret story". Also with the LSO.

All of these are very beautiful.

Garyi,

Don't worry liking Cinematic Orchestra doesn't mean you like Jazz at all. It means you like Jazz tinged downtempo trip-hop soundtrack music designed to be played by Nathan Barley's who like sitting on their minimalist sofa admiring the copies of Blueprint and Twunt Magazine artfully displayed on their Phillipe Starke coffee table in thier Hoxditch loft conversion. They are kind of Morcheeba's more fahsionable and slightly cooler older brother (About whom it has been noted that in a perfectly parrallel universe somewhere CO are relaxing with a glass of Chardonnay listening to a CD of accountants analysing a balance sheet).

If you like CO but not Miles Davis I think it unlikely you'll like Ellington. You've also got a bit of a cheek claiming Mails is into muso-wanking then citing Zappa whose jazz moments are 3 hour atonal improvs inspired by obscure French avante-garde classicalists.

Have you tried stuff like Funki Porcini and the ubiquitous St Germain?

Paul said "I've no idea what 'Cinematic Orchestra' sounds like, so the above are all out of context"

Track a day MP3s at http://www.cinematicorchestra.com/everyday.html

Matthew

PS Gary remember that Jazz is like cricket and if if you truly undersntad it its impossible not to like it.

First Led Zeppelin now this.
Gareth sorry but you're now offically old.

A thousand Mcintoshes cannot save you.

Surely anyone who does not appreciate the genius of Ellington is a lost cause.

Gary,

You walk a dangerous path...

come on Money Jungle

Matthew

Try We Travel Fast by Chungking

Computers are supposed to work on 1's and 0's - in other words "Yes" or "No" - why does mine frequently say "Maybe"?......

Master Robinson, you have saved me. You see I am shallow, I cook food, I earn money, I get pissed.

For me lounge room lizard style down tempo malarky is much more preferable to Miles davis (Of which I was of course refeering)

I take your point on Zappa, but at least it didn't sound like porn music. Common Miles fans, just imagine the thwack thwack of slapping uglies with that music in the background and you know where I am coming from.

Everyone else thanks for the recommendations.

If any one is ineterested I have a mint copy of Grand Wazzoo on vinyl, for reasons beyond my understanding I bid on it again on Ebay when pissed and now have two.

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n't worry liking Cinematic Orchestra doesn't mean you like Jazz at all. It means you like Jazz tinged downtempo trip-hop soundtrack music designed to be played by Nathan Barley's who like sitting on their minimalist sofa admiring the copies of Blueprint and Twunt Magazine artfully displayed on their Phillipe Starke coffee table in thier Hoxditch loft conversion...

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Blimey, Matthew. I've obviously been out of the UK way too long - I didn't understand half of that! Nathan Barley? Blueprint & Twunt? Hoxditch loft conversion?

Please help,
Davie (who has just heard that Mafeking's been relieved)

garyi,

You might try this

Much more Jazz than CO and not without its porno moments but very good and ideally suited to the lifestyle of Watford's smart metroploitan elite

Matthew

I reckon you'd get on well with the old Jazzmatazz compilations that GURU (of Gangstarr) put together. Also, the Blue Note Breaks compilations are dead accessable, and might give you an idea of whatelse you'll get on with.

Guru's Jazzmatazz Volume I is a great album to start with, and IMO more enjoyable than Madlib. "Loungin'" is a great track. New Groove, The Blue Note Remix, Volume I is also very good.

Whatever your choices, enjoy!

nice

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Guru's Jazzmatazz Volume I is a great album to start with, and IMO more enjoyable than Madlib. "Loungin'" is a great track. New Groove, The Blue Note Remix, Volume I is also very good.

Whatever your choices, enjoy!

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Is the "Blue note remix" the one with Billie Holiday's "strange fruit" re-jigged as trip-hop ? I heard this blaring out of a speaker in a crowded Cafe the other day and let me tell you, the old trigger finger got mighty itchy. Is nothing sacred ? What next - Bach's Requiem set to a cha-cha ?

An update to this thread , my enjoyment of modern jazz is taking a new twist, right now I am listening to and enjoying Jaga Jazzist, which is really getting rather heavy.

I am scared for myself.

Gary
You may also enjoy the "Future Sounds of Jazz" compilations on Compost records (I wonder if Dev will sniff this one out).

Simon

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Is the "Blue note remix" the one with Billie Holiday's "strange fruit" re-jigged as trip-hop ? I heard this blaring out of a speaker in a crowded Cafe the other day and let me tell you, the old trigger finger got mighty itchy. Is nothing sacred ? What next - Bach's Requiem set to a cha-cha ?

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Minky, I think that was probably 'Verve Re-mixed' - don't have it but do have 'Verve Un-mixed' (the originals) which is quite good.

cheers,

Dan