Reflections on the UK General Election.

Posted by: u5227470736789439 on 13 May 2010

Reflections on the UK General Election.

A personal view on why the electorate won the UK General Election.

To be honest we have had IMHO far too much strong [and misguided] government over the last few decades.

These over-powerful governments reflected the votes of often little more than a third of the electorate. I hope that in the new coalition the Liberals manage to get a referendum on proportional representation or the single transferable vote, so that never again can a single party get a majority of seats in the Commons on a minority of the votes cast in the election.

I much prefer the idea that Mr Cameron cannot manage what Mrs Thatcher was able to, and bulldoze legislation based on her own ideology but supported by a minority of voters. Same for Mr Brown and before him Mr Blair. Both inflicted IMHO deep damage on Britain without the mandate - at least if one accepts the results of PR or STV as being a better representation of the electorate's wish - that would have legitimized it. Of course they did correctly govern within the confines of our current first past the post system, and so we have no business complaining about the system or these governments unless we also try to reform it!

I think the Cameron-Clegg administration may just potentially be the most significant and reforming government since 1950.

I sincerely hope so!

At least this administration was elected in its constituent parts by a majority of the electorate. I don't think anyone voting as part of a minority of electors should expect to have the manifesto of the party they choose implemented without modification by other parties selected by other voters who cast their votes other ways.

Thus the Labour Party or the Tory Party could never form a government without coalition with less than fifty percent of the votes.

With party vote whipping in the House Of Commons the Prime Minister and government as a whole are given far too much freedom to administer in an unaccountable fashion between elections. With two parties in coalition then the back-benchers must be kept in the consideration. Thus in our present new administration, if some loopy right wing policy is proposed will be checked by the Liberal element, and if some daft left wing proposal were presented, then Tory back benchers will check it in its tracks! This will restore the value of the back-benchers as a check on the Executive members [ministers] of the government. Neither the Liberals or the Tories can hope to continue in power unless the almost the whole body of their respective back-benchers are considered.

It is just my view, but I am very tired of the Executive taking their position for granted [with a majority in the Commons] between elections. The politicians will have to learn to moderate their ambitions and work together for the greater good of the country and with less partisan political interests at heart. It is managed well in other European countries. Surely in the UK we are sensible enough to do it as well they do in modern Germany for example.

ATB from George
Posted on: 14 May 2010 by u5227470736789439
You are allowed to reply! Has no one else reflected on the quite amazing result the electorate have managed to inflict on the political class?

Their smugness is removed in one single poll!

And any politician or political party who dares spoil the effect will be in the long grass for at least a generation ...

I do believe the current crisis will be enough to stiffen the resolve of our present coalition. This has to be made to work, for everybody's secure future in the UK.

ATB from George
Posted on: 14 May 2010 by Guido Fawkes
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crisis
crises what crises - I hope it works I really do. Been impressed with Cameron, thus far, but I was impressed by Blair in his first term ... so what do I know; I just have this feeling that things can only get better.

BTW if you are going to buy anything, buy now for the VATman cometh and he surely taketh away.
Posted on: 14 May 2010 by u5227470736789439
Oh! For sure that VATman is coming! Twenty per cent for starters, I would guess, at the soon to arrive emergency budget. Might be even more on luxury items.

But there is a lot to put right. 70 billion deficit is a reported estimate according to the BBC. Even if this is exagerated, then possibly more sober estimates of 50 billion has been not been disputed by any high profile public personage. I guess we shall face a long haul to put the UK back on track, but at least exports of manufactured goods, which as a nation we have proven record of being able to make, will benefit from a low value for the "£" Sterling.

This will also tend to leave the Banking Sector as being much less significant in the overal ecomonic picture in the UK, and I doubt many people would regard that as anything other than a correction of an existing imbalance.

ATB from George
Posted on: 16 May 2010 by u5227470736789439
Earlier this evening "Moneybox" on Radio Four was hosting a discussion on the future of tax in the UK, and the pundits were of the view that VAT is indeed likely to be increased to 20 per cent.

ATB from George
Posted on: 16 May 2010 by Bob McC
Ever get the feeling you're talking to yourself?
Posted on: 16 May 2010 by u5227470736789439
Dear Bob,

I suspect that there are more people reading and reflecting [as per the title] than actually replying. That is what I expected and nothing wrong with it really! The title was carefully worded from the start.

It seems to me a very important issue, and the "views" figure seems to indicate that I am not alone in thinking this.

As ever it is pleasant to read your words...

ATB from George
Posted on: 16 May 2010 by PJT
George,

A PR is a good means of declaring the electors wishes, BUT after the election there is always going to be the coalition talks. And it the vote is close between major parties, you will find that it is the smaller parties that are the "King Makers". This is an even worse scenario, as generally large consessions are made to these lesser parties for the role of governing the country.

Don't get me wrong, Proportional Representation is good for democracy, but please be careful which version your country picks.

Here in New Zealand. MMP, and it's LIST MP system sucks.
Posted on: 17 May 2010 by FlipTop
10 days on and time to whistle up a hundred party hacks to get their snouts in the Lord's trough, just to get the sums right of course.
We have too many politicians, MP's & lords - wasn't it in someones manifesto to reduce the number of sitting MP's ?