copy protection

Depends what software you use to alter it from a cda file to an MP3.... before transferring it to the iPod.

there have been a few mentions on previous threads that people can make copies of copy controlled disks, does anyone know how to do it ?

Anselm,
There are good high quality rips of this available on emule. As you have already bought the album you should feel no guilt in downloading one of these for your MP3 player (infact the record company should be the one feeling guilty for ripping you off twofold by 1) charging a rediculously high price for this record in the UK compared to other world markets, and 2) degrading your ability and right to make your own copy of this album for your own listening pleasure. Tossers.
Simon

I use EAC (exact audio copy) and LAME to copy and encode to MP3 files and haven't found a 'copy controlled' CD (if they can call it that) that I have been unable to rip so far.

For info. I then use ephpod to load onto my iPod.

Copy protection is a sad and vindictive way for record labels to try and blame falling revenues on anyone but themselves for producing 'crap' music.

I also agree with Simon, you have the CD, download the tracks from a P2P network with no feelings of guilt.

Good Luck

David

Music should be 'original' and played 'live'. No more overpaid Karaoke singers.

If you have a Mac you can just put the CD in the Mac and import it into iTunes directly - no messing about.

I don't know if it works with iTunes for the PC, perhaps its worth trying. Remeber though, start iTunes first *before* putting the CD in so the pernicious software on the CD doesn't have chance run.

I copied a couple of copy controlled discs. It was easy I used Sony's sonicstage on my pc.
One up for the punter !

I just encountered my first copy-protected CD (the new Norah Jones recording) and after my initial annoyance at not being able to play it on my PC without first installing what appears to be an audio player that comes on the CD (which I didn't do), I figured out a couple of work arounds without getting into the arcane art of anti-copy-protection software. First, if you have a PC, start up iTunes before installing the CD. You can then import and burn the CD. The other approach was to simply copy the CD on a Mac (also using iTune), where the copy-protection scheme had no effect.

So, what's the purpose of the copy protection if I - a somewhat sophisticated computer user - can bypass the protection in a couple of minutes? The pros can make all the copies they want using all sorts of tricks, as can those amateurs who want to aggressively share ripped music. So, who does this hurt? The person who knows just enough about a computer to surf the net, send emails and use a word-processing program. Ripping and burning? Probably doesn't know how to do it. Not exactly the music-stealing profile the music industry is after. More evidence (after the silly pricing of CDs, the wacky packaging - what on Earth is that strip of sealing tape on a CD for? - and the lawsuits) that the music industry is run by knuckleheads.

All of which makes me seriously consider simply not buying copy-protected CDs...

[This message was edited by Robert Derwae on WEDNESDAY 18 February 2004 at 22:15.]

See "Copy-Protection PIC Upgrade FAQ" in the Hi-Fi Corner

If you get the 'jump' within eight seconds of each track which is what copy protection does (in effect), then when you burn the CD to your hard drive slow down the copy speed to 4 x. Also if you use a prog like CloneCD or Nero then let the copying prog access the cd - in other words don't let windows boot up the cd itself before the copy prog u r using requests it.

I used clonyxxl which obviously piggy backs onto clonecd and when I have inserted all my copy protected cd's all it suggests is slowing the write speed down to 4x!

The autoboot feature can be disabled within CloneCD (Options)...

andy c!

IF YOUR PC DOES NOT PLAY THE CC CD...

Here's a trick. When you look ath the cd, you'll notice a somewhat different color outer ring on the cd. Put some pieces of black tape on it (I guess from the edge of the cd about 3 mm will suffice) and voila, it will play. You can have difficulties with the last track, but hey, better than not playing at all!

Regards, Bas

PS Do be careful, make sure the tape is well brought on and does not stick outside the disc!

I am just the guy you describe Andrew, have never worked in London though ;-). If you don't understand what I mean. just take a look at a cd that shows this problem. The color of the outer ring (not the edge) of the cd is the same as when you have a cd with a hidden track. I am not really mad you know...

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Originally posted by Simon Perry:
Anselm,
There are good high quality rips your own
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah ..
blah blah listening pleasure. Tossers.

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I would have used the "Cunt" word but "Tossers" indeed.

The only difference that I can detect with copy protected CDs is that they take a lot longer to copy (they usually rip at between 1x and 2x with the error correction light running red-hot). Replace the word "protected" with "retarded" and you'd be closer to the mark. I tend to leave them to "cook" overnight. Then I lie in bed waiting for the bang (no pun intended).