Wayne Rooney £750000 in debt ( allegedly ) Who cares?....

Ahh Premiership/international footballers, don't yer just luv 'em?

Bank balances invariably inversely proportional to the number of brain cells.

Oh, and no I don't care.

Cheers,

Jon

I care. I care because of the immorality of paying footballers obscene amounts of money completely unrelated to their worth. This and general Chav Celebrity costs us all tremendous amounts of money (if you watch Sky TV or buy a newspaper you are paying them - or even buying a product advertised on TV during a reality TV show). Children are influenced and believe that the greatest successes come from careers (sic) that do not require education, and you can't argue that they're wrong. Just think for a moment where this is going. It's appalling that footballers get paid so much when other sports men & women struggle by on support from their relatives or fight for sponsership. It stinks.

Personally I think its time salaries were capped.

They earn far to much, far to young and have no idea how to handle it,

Regards

PB

I am sure that you would agree if it was your earning potential being caped.

In any event I do not see it as such a big deal. Much worse if somone who cannot afford it gets into such debt, on the basis of a gambling problem.

If he has any sense he will resolve the situation, and if not then so be it.

Simon

I couldn't give a toss.
I do get hot under the collar at my taxes being used to sponsor athletes though.

Rasher,

Maybe may last comment was a little on the flippant side. I agree entirely with the sentiments you express in your post. I guess as a father you are (rightly) concerned about the potential influence these grossly overpaid idiots may have on children. They also, IMV, devalue the very sport they play for a living.

OTOH, not being a father, I find that footballers and their (myriad) excesses) are just a waste of my time even to read about.

Cheers,

Jon

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Originally posted by i am simon 2:

If he has any sense

Simon

Simon

Remind yourself that this is Wayne Rooney you were talking about, and then reflect upon what you wrote!

Graham

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Personally I think its time salaries were capped.

They earn far to much, far to young and have no idea how to handle it,

Regards

PB

Not too sure about a salary cap but I do think that the clubs have a duty of care towards players young and old who have such salary cheques. Some form of financial advice and help with wealth management should I think be offered and forced upon them as a last resort. Now some may call this the nanny state or the nanny club but iirc help is offered and indeed forced upon some who have lost their way due to dirnk, drugs, gambeling or some other vices so why not offer help in the financial field?

Slightly tangentially, I used to do some contract work for Man U. I don't think you can expect much in the way of a duty of care from a company like that. The salaries that were being paid to the permanent members of staff, ie the people working in the offices and the warehouse were scandalously low. They could get away with paying pretty much minimum wage because people thought it was cool to work for Man U. They don't care for their employees so why do you think it will be any different for the players? As long as people do their job they're happy. As soon as they stop performing they're out

I think football is a rediculous game, played by morons and watched by fools (the fans I mean not the casual viewer). The last match I watched was Brighton v Man U in the FA cup final and when was that? The only reason I watched that was because I was stuck in someone elses house and watched it to be polite. I would rather watch paint dry. I'm not against sport, far from it, its just that I think football is so massivley overestimated. The beautiful game is one big bore.

Any person can watch grandstand or match of the day for 2 consecutive weeks and even if previously knowing nothing about the game can then walk into any pub in the land and have an informed conversation about football. This is how the lowest common denominator bonds with his fellow man. Big deal says I and how bloody sad that for some it is all they can talk about.

I find it totally laughable that some of the morons who are ex-players are dressed up in suits and sat in a tv studio to have discussions about the rediculous game at half time or at the end of the game during which they compete to say the bleedn' obvious. Their views are no more informed than any man in your local pub. It's all a bunch of bollocks IMO and our media is full of it. Big deal says I. They actually discuss the game as if it were truly important.

I particularly like it when when some moron asks me 'ow did the match go mate' while I am minding my own business walking down a street. what match? or 'Ow did england do tonight mate' - England?

England never won the world cup. 11 men won the world cup. I am not a better person for this win neither am I a worse person if another 11 players lose it next time round. I simply could not care less. It's all part of the us and them mentality. Are we a better nation because someone kicked a ball into a goal? It is truly Pathetic. The reason why the english team will not win the world cup or go further than the quarter finals is you have to be really hungry to win it and our players are just too spoilt. Certainly they are over paid. How many nurses could we pay out of Roonies earnings?

As for the histrionics after a player scores a goal, the taking off of shirts, sliding along the floor, hugging and kissing, gymnastics and so forth whatever happened to a clap on the back or a handshake?

I gave up on football the day Bobby Charlton retired.

If you ever see me posting on a football thread again you have my permission to shoot me.

Yours in troll mode,

Erik

I would quite happily give any of them financial advice for a small fee!

Regards

PB

Eric
That is the best post I have ever read about football.

Yeah, Erik dun fantastic. At the end of the day, he gave it one hundred and ten percent. It wuz quali-eee.
Lacked direction in the first 15 minutes, but tightened up in the mid-field and went from there. Good result.

Um, but it's all likely to be rubbish though....

Daily Mail Offices (day) 9:30am

The phone rings....

"Eh, mate. I got you a story. Just saw Wayne Rooney in a casino. At least, I think it was him"

"Excellent, he must have a gambling problem. Probably in debt too. I reckons's £50k. Actually no, that's only a weeks wages. Let's make it £750k. That will sell loads of papers. Might even be able to go on holiday a bit earlier. Thanks for calling mate."

"No bother"

Phone call ends. Man rubs hands with gleeful look on face.

Exit stage left.

Richard

You're fully entitled to be sceptical, but today's Times goes into a lot of detail about the various dirty little moneygrubbers involved.

Rooney's clearly of low intelligence, but did he need to have the likes of Owen, Lampard, Terry and drug-cheat Ferdinand goading him into this world of money-grabbing sharks?

Graham

Yeah!

He should be dropped from the England team like! That, umm, learn em....

Graham,

Yes, you're right, I am sceptical. I don't believe a word any of the media tell me.

I know these guys are very rich but 3/4 million pounds seems like a lot of cash for even Wayne Rooney to fritter away.

In the unlikely event that it is true, then no I don't care. If Sir Alex believes that he is behaving in a way that is not conducive to his (or Manchester United's) well being he will come down on Wayne like a ton of bricks. Remember the Ryan Giggs/Lee Sharpe party story?

Richard

Rooney is a moron who managed to fritter away more than £700,000 in less than five months. But that may be less than his chav Colleen may be able to spend over a similar period on her life's work of 'shopping'.

I don't give a f*ck, but I wonder where we've got to in the world when many English people don't give a f*ck either, so long as he does well for his team in the World Cup.

Being Scottish, I'm indifferent, but don't expect moral rectitude from Ferguson, who continues to play (as does Eriksson) the drug cheat Ferdinand.

Graham

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Rooney's clearly of low intelligence,

'course he is - but he sure stikes a football sweet!

Dear All,

As a comparison.

Motor racing ie Formula 1 etc

Touring Cars

Motor Cycles

Le Mans

I cant see too many of these guys dinking into oblivion, squandering their money etc etc.

D Coulthard owns a sexy hotel in Monaco as an example.

Footballers are just Numb Nuts with far too much money.

What is even funnier is the conduct of their girlfriends better halves etc.

Regards A broke NHS employee who was crap at football.

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Originally posted by Richard @ Soundcraft:
Um, but it's all likely to be rubbish though....

Daily Mail Offices (day) 9:30am

The phone rings....

"Eh, mate. I got you a story. Just saw Wayne Rooney in a casino. At least, I think it was him"

"Excellent, he must have a gambling problem. Probably in debt too. I reckons's £50k. Actually no, that's only a weeks wages. Let's make it £750k. That will sell loads of papers. Might even be able to go on holiday a bit earlier. Thanks for calling mate."

"No bother"

Phone call ends. Man rubs hands with gleeful look on face.

Exit stage left.

Richard, I would agree in part, mainly the depths the gutter press will lower themselves to in order to make some money.
However, and this is the crux of my reply, why is his publicity machine not threatening court action etc etc ?
After all, a story such as this, if that is all it is,can be negative on his image? would you be happy your name being attached to a £750000 gambling debt?
The front page of the mirror ran with the story that he is not going to pay it back, I only hope the money is not owed to some gentlemen from manchester or better still liverpool, otherwise he will find his career rather short lived and end up short legged?

Becaause the allegations are true.

Aren't gambling debts unenforeceable within the law?

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Aren't gambling debts unenforeceable within the law?

I think you are right but they are enforceable with baseball bats or so I have been told.

Exactly why I used the words "within the law"!