Collector or Refiner?

Posted by: u5227470736789439 on 07 November 2005

Dear Friends,

I am someone who has had several times the number of records, CDs, tapes or even private recordings than occupy my shelves now. Recently, for example, I even found a happy home for T Nicholeaeva's fine Hyperion recording of the Goldbergs on the piano, which almost disproves my theory about the piano in Bach. It certainly gives pause for thought, and in my case about twenty years pause... But it went. I never retain anything once I loose interest in it. Not usually the music of course, but the performance. Then I read of people who have the umpteenth complete cycle of this ot that and realise I am quite at the polar opposite. I am almost anit-aquisitive I suppose. And I used to give really the best things away to encourage people, even though some of these were not possible to replace.

This does not often result in a one performance to a piece library, but, for sure, the performances must have something unique to show, or else they go... [Nine, odd, Choral Symphonies for example, but ony Beethoven Second Symphony at the moment].

What category do contributors fall into here, and why ? If that is not too prurient a question of course!

Sincerely, Fredrik
Posted on: 08 November 2005 by Huwge
Hardly categorise myself as anti-aquisitive, but a recent move did see a lot of pruning. As a consequence I have tried to now limit myself to buying things that will stand repeated listening and not just 1 or 2 listens.

When I started building my popular music collection I would buy everything available by an artist and then buy those discs on which they either guested or were referenced. If these subsidiary discs revealed an artist that I liked I would progress in the same way. I don't tend to do this anymore, altough there are exceptions to every rule, e.g. Richard Thompson. By nature a hoarder, my better half has made me understand that I don't need every CD in the shop (that's what she tells me anyway). I probably would collect everything if I could, but understand that this may not be socially / domestically acceptable. I think the internet has helped me become more selective though the ability to find musical clips rather than just text reviews.

Classical music aquistions were initially driven by whatever had been last seen in concert or heard on the radio and with selective reference to either parents, music teacher or local library. Also, I tended to buy 2nd hand albums rather than new. This cheaper route allowed me to experiment with both pieces and performers, which can be quite expensive when buying "new." I now know what I like and tend to buy based on reviews or radio listening. For things where I am not 100% certain or ignorant I tend to use the listening post at the local music store. I keep or have kept only those versions that mean something to me, even if they are not necessarily the "best versions" but it does mean that I still have many versions of the same piece. Still, explaining four versions of the "Nozze di Figaro" is not easy Roll Eyes

Sorry for the rambling response, not 100% and seemingly not able to follow my reply in my head.

To answer the question, I think I have moved from being an aquirer to a high frequency, selective purchaser. If you can call yourself selective with over 2500 discs Confused
Posted on: 08 November 2005 by Not For Me
Definitely a collector. Only dispose of doubles, triples, quaduplets Smile

DS
Posted on: 09 November 2005 by pe-zulu
I am certainly a collector, but I don´t keep CDs, I know I shall never listen to any more. In a few instances I was wrong and had to reacquire the disc.
Posted on: 09 November 2005 by u5227470736789439
Dear Friends,

I think I must be rare in being a refiner. I have a go about three or four times a year, and weigh things in the balance. Of course a major change occured when I sold about 800 LPs to financce (at least in part!) the restoration of my old London made bass. But I replaced everything I wanted to pretty much. As pe-zulu mentioned I am occasionally reminded of something that gave great pleasure in the past and in this most recent case I think of Bruno Walter's way with Beethoven!

The most recent batch of departure included Verdi's requiem under Fricsay, and the Goldbergs played by T Nicholeaeva... So I am quite hard really!

All the best Fredrik
Posted on: 10 November 2005 by Tam
I'm definitely a collector. That said, I don't know how much I'd save, aside from the space, by clearing out the cds that I could probably live without. The only set I can remember getting rid of was my Rattle/VPO Beethoven cycle because I was so disappointed by it, but I barely recouped enough money to buy two discs in its place. I suppose I don't really need the 11 remaining cycles I have, but would be loath to part with any of them (ditto my 7 or so Mahler cycles, with the possible exception of Chailly, but since that only cost me £40.....).

In fact, I think part of the reason I have a tendency towards being a collector is the relative cheapness of cds. When most Beethoven cycles can be had for the price of two or 3 regular discs (or less, given my Britannia membership) it makes sense to take that route and gives you a more interesting perspective.

regards, Tam
Posted on: 10 November 2005 by BobPaterso
I'm a collector of 35 years experience but becoming more cynical having bought the original vinyl, then the CD version, then the re-mastered CD version then the new CD version with the original vinyl cover artwork on too many occasions.
Bob
Posted on: 10 November 2005 by bhazen
I'm a refiner; because I live in such a small space (<600 sq. ft.), I'm forced to pare back occasionally. Although it's heresy in these parts, I'll even get Best Of/Greatest Hits CDs for some groups that I like, but aren't deemed essential to have a bunch of their albums (i.e. their hits really were their best material). I've also made the decision that if an old CD I have sounds good to me, I'm not buying the re-released, re-mastered version. Unless the bonus tracks have something really rare & essential...

Having said that, there are a couple of artists I get hung up on; I must have half-a-dozen Procol Harum compilations, for some odd reason. Similar with '73-'74 King Crimson live stuff.

However, the reality is that every so often I gather up a couple dozen albums that I realise don't cut it to go to the used CD shop to sell. This happens more often with today's bands, unfortunately. Plus, I'm making room for classical CDs, which is where I see my listening going in future. The general idea is to keep the number of CDs I have under 600.
Posted on: 10 November 2005 by Guido Fawkes
I'm definitely a collector. I'm even stupid enough to buy a Syd Barrett album because it has one track on that I don't already have, even though I think "Bob Dylan Blues" is not even a good song. I just think one day I'll find a song by Syd that's better than "See Emily Play" - of course I won't.

Perhaps the worst thing is I have a lot of vinyl by obscure German bands that I got from a friend of mine (he got them from a shop that was closing down) - about 30 records. I only like 2, but I keep the lot in my record cabinet along with the Finnish punk rock triple album I never play. Incidentally, I have a lot of German records by Amon Duul II, Can, Kraftwerk, Embryo, Guru Guru, City, Ash Ra Temple and Floh De Cologne that I love.

Yes I'm a collector or am I hoarder