What's new at the Bristol Show?

Posted by: John Channing on 09 February 2001

Paul, Mark, etc.
What new products will you be showing at the Bristol hifi show? Rumour on the electronic grapevine is that you will be upsetting the Mana faithful by entering the market sector that they consider their own. Any comment??
John

More Hutter, more Hutter!

Posted on: 09 February 2001 by Dev B
>>>Mana faithful by entering the market sector that they consider their own

err, what could that be then?

Posted on: 09 February 2001 by Martin M
When can we put our names down to lend an ear to the DBLs?
Posted on: 09 February 2001 by Arye_Gur
quote:

Rumour on the electronic grapevine is that you will be upsetting the Mana faithful by entering the market sector that they consider their own.

I "say a BIG pray" that it is true !

Arie

Posted on: 09 February 2001 by Andrew Randle
Anthony,

You can find out all about the Bristol Show at www.bristolshow.co.uk.

*Also* they have just posted the floor plan.

Of course I'm looking forward to hearing the various Naim rooms - there looks to be about 5 different demos at the show!!!! Royd, DNM, Living Voice, Creek, Linn, Exposure and Rega should also be well worth hearing. Wonder if Linn will demo their Komri?

Andrew

Andrew Randle
2B || !2B;
4 ^ = ?;

Posted on: 09 February 2001 by bob atherton
Anthony,

I think the 'wobbly CD' thing is a red herring. It is IMPOSSIBLE to get 4 metal feet to fit evenly on a sheet of glass. There is bound to be an element of unevenness with the interface. For similar reasons this is why Linn made the Troika with a 3 point fixing.

One can only conclude that Naim never intended the CD range to be placed on a glass table. The obvious conclusion is that it was designed & should be placed on a wooden table as there is a small element of compliance with the wood, enough to take out a very small discrepancy in the alignment of the feet.

Having heard the CDSII on a wooden table, this makes perfect sense to me.

Bob

Posted on: 09 February 2001 by John C
Wotcha woolly jumpers, 'ooch is a shim short of shanity. Eees woobblin all over the plaice (sic). However he is writing Finnegans Wake on the ManA (Ray) Forum.

John

Fryday

Posted on: 09 February 2001 by jimlevitt
Bob: I believe Naim intends for their CD players, including those with metal feet, to sit flat on a level surface. My CDS2 does not sit level on a Target shelf, and it does not sit level on Mana glass. If I had Hutter, it would wobble on that too. This is a problem that requires a shim under one of the feet, something that Naim provides. One is headed my way from NANA in Chicago even as we speak. Optimally, this is noted and corrected at the factory. If not, it can be easily remedied later. It is Not A Big Deal.

Now, we may differ as to the musical qualities imparted by the surface upon which those feet may rest, but there's no question that the player, by design, should sit level. Otherwise the user would have to be lucky enough to find a shelf that is warped in precisely the right location to match the feet on the offending player. The only standard available to all of us is FLAT

Posted on: 10 February 2001 by keV
Couldn't agree more. Is Arie Gur perhaps an alias of Paul Stephenson?

>>P.S. Arie, you seem like a decent chap, but you may want to look up the word sycophant before commenting any further on supports. I was also not impressed by your impolite behaviour on the Mana forum recently which is quite a feat,
considering the relatively low standards there.

Regarding the flatness issue, the only time I have ever had a four footed box not be flat on Mana glass was when my dealer bent the case while changing the power supply. There is no excuse at all for the feet not resting flat.

Kevin

Posted on: 10 February 2001 by Arye_Gur
Anthony and keV,

I don't think Paul Stephenson thinks I'm a sycophants to him or to Naim.

I have several prooves I'm not.

It will be great if Naim will show stands in the Bristol show.

As I'm impressed from Naim, if they do so, the stands will give at least a very good fight to all the existing stands.

This is the history of Naim until now, a simple truth not a sycophants.

Arie

(Paul Stephenson,
As you can see I do what I promised you I will, I hope you remember the new stand free of charge you promised me if I do my share !)

Posted on: 10 February 2001 by Andrew Randle
All,

What I've just heard and am really looking forward to is Royd, who will launch an updated range of 'speakers at the Bristol show.

Anyone with any more information on this?

Andrew

Andrew Randle
2B || !2B;
4 ^ = ?;

Posted on: 10 February 2001 by Mike Hanson
I've been bugging Tom Ruehle (the Canadian distributor for Royd), and he says that he's hoping to be at the Bristol Show. He'll post pictures of the new models on the Royd site/forum after he gets back.

I've also been hearing rumours for over a year now that there was to be a new "top of the line" speaker upcoming from Royd. I hope that they're releasing that now, and I'm really curious to see what it looks like. If I decide to upgrade my speakers, that would be an obvious option (considering I already have six different speakers from Royd being used in various systems/households).

-=> Mike Hanson <=-

Posted on: 10 February 2001 by bob atherton
Kev,

What I was trying to convey is that is is almost impossible for a very rigid, non compliant box with 4 metal feet to sit evenly on a glass surface, especially when the glass is relatively thick.

Just think how tricky it is to get Mana to 'sing'. This is only achieved when all 4 spikes have the same relationship with the glass. It could
easily take 10 minutes of tuning to achieve this, even with the aid of infinitely adjustable spikes.

I fail to see how a Naim sleeve case with 4 rock hard metal feet will have the same degree of integrity with a glass surface. It may look as if all 4 feet are touching the glass, & the unit may not wobble, but the chances of all 4 feet having the same degree of contact is negligible.

Bo

Posted on: 11 February 2001 by Paul Stephenson
I was fortunate to hear a prototype of a new Royd speaker, I thought it played really well. I think the launch is at Bristol.
Posted on: 11 February 2001 by Andrew Randle
Mike,

As you probably won't be at the show, I'll send you some details on the Royd demo - maybe even take some photographs.

Paul, glad to hear about your trial of the prototype - it's good to know that Naim still interact with other manufacturers. Having never been to a Royd demo I would expect they use Naim electronics.

Andrew

Andrew Randle
2B || !2B;
4 ^ = ?;

Posted on: 11 February 2001 by Mike Hanson
I would appreciate it if you could send any details my way. BTW, I've heard from many reputable sources that Joe Akroyd uses NAP135s for much of his testing.

-=> Mike Hanson <=-