stageline, microgroove, black cube,...?
Posted by: Theo on 27 October 2003
As an upgrade for my MF XLPs I'm looking for a new phono pre-amp. Candidates are Naim stageline, microgroove, Lehman Black cube SE. Can anyone recommend one of these items or are there better ones (in this price range) on the market?
Theo
Theo
Posted on: 27 October 2003 by Markus S
Tom, you could take a look at Theo's profile.
Theo, how did you become "somebody"?
Theo, how did you become "somebody"?
Posted on: 27 October 2003 by Frank Abela
Theo
Given the rest of your system I would upgrade the deck instead. Take your pick from the following upgrade suggestions:
1. P3 motor upgrade - if you have the old motor assembly definitely do this before anything unless you're changing decks. £85 or so.
2. Dynavector 10x5 - significant improvement all-round over the 1022. Around £275.
3. Incognito rewire for the tonearm - signficant improvements in resolution, definition, pace, attack, transparency - no downsides as far as I can tell. Around £130. Both Moth and Michell do this job.
4. Michell or Origin Live arm extras such as underslung counterweight. Further improvements. Price varies depending on what you're doing.
5. New deck. Rega P25 £625 or so. Michell tecnodec £600 or so. factor that you'll get back £100 - £125 for your P3 depending on condition. Or an even better deck, but then the money gets big very quickly.
You'll note that for the price of a new phono stage you can make significant improvements further up the chain at the deck. I'd start there given that the MF phono stage is not going to be that bad and almost certainly isn't being taxed by the 1022.
Regards,
Frank.
All opinions are my own and do not reflect the opinion of any organisations I work for, except where this is stated explicitly.
Given the rest of your system I would upgrade the deck instead. Take your pick from the following upgrade suggestions:
1. P3 motor upgrade - if you have the old motor assembly definitely do this before anything unless you're changing decks. £85 or so.
2. Dynavector 10x5 - significant improvement all-round over the 1022. Around £275.
3. Incognito rewire for the tonearm - signficant improvements in resolution, definition, pace, attack, transparency - no downsides as far as I can tell. Around £130. Both Moth and Michell do this job.
4. Michell or Origin Live arm extras such as underslung counterweight. Further improvements. Price varies depending on what you're doing.
5. New deck. Rega P25 £625 or so. Michell tecnodec £600 or so. factor that you'll get back £100 - £125 for your P3 depending on condition. Or an even better deck, but then the money gets big very quickly.
You'll note that for the price of a new phono stage you can make significant improvements further up the chain at the deck. I'd start there given that the MF phono stage is not going to be that bad and almost certainly isn't being taxed by the 1022.
Regards,
Frank.
All opinions are my own and do not reflect the opinion of any organisations I work for, except where this is stated explicitly.
Posted on: 27 October 2003 by syd
quote:
Originally posted by Markus Sauer:
Tom, you could take a look at Theo's profile.
Theo, how did you become "somebody"?
Yeah Theo or anybody at Naim/Infopop just how did you get to be a "somebody" when the rest of us are either "Junior Member" or "Member". I've tried to change mine in preferences or profile but to no avail. Please Explain.
Yours in Music
Syd
Posted on: 28 October 2003 by Theo
Thanks for the advice. It seems that although a stageline, cube or groove would improve the sound, a better deck is the way to go.
A Quick scan of the market learned that there are even more options. LP12, P25, Nottingham analogue, gyrodec and several German contenders Transrotor leonardo. The Lp12 seems popular on this forum. Is this the best choice?
I'm "somebody" because I own a Naim and am no longer a "nobody"
Theo
A Quick scan of the market learned that there are even more options. LP12, P25, Nottingham analogue, gyrodec and several German contenders Transrotor leonardo. The Lp12 seems popular on this forum. Is this the best choice?
I'm "somebody" because I own a Naim and am no longer a "nobody"
Theo
Posted on: 28 October 2003 by Alex S.
Frank, anyone,
Have you heard the new Roksan deck which is getting such good reviews?
Alex
Have you heard the new Roksan deck which is getting such good reviews?
Alex